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GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

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Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

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post #22

If you consider how much money is embezzled / stolen by (most) corporations by avoiding paying taxes for all the services they benefit from, in the countries they operate in, this seems a very good feature.

Yeah, because it would be much better if none of these companies existed.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#52
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the release notes: > This is a first alpha release Alpha typically means feature complete, but untested and thus unsuitable for general release. You don't need to use good-looking version numbers for that.

It's not even remotely close to being feature complete as of speaking.

What major features are missing? It looks like everything is there.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#53

So, semver is great and all, but 0.0.x releases just look silly, in my opinion. I've never seen someone zero index the least significant column before though, which makes it look even worse. Would people actually expect w piece of software marked as version 0.0.0 to be anything more than a placeholder?

It's funny that programmers treat zero-indexing arrays and things as normal (even "correct"), but suddenly zero-indexing versions is something wacky. What's weird to me is that 0.0.0 isn't more common in the developer world, given how frequently we start counting from 0.

Yeah, but 0-based array indexing is a convenience measure.

In the real world everybody would just call a[0] "the first element of the array".

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#54
post #48
post #22

If you consider how much money is embezzled / stolen by (most) corporations by avoiding paying taxes for all the services they benefit from, in the countries they operate in, this seems a very good feature.

This must be the most blatantly hypocritical statement I have ever read. Money is STOLEN by corporations by not paying taxes??? How ignorant and thankless can you be? Money is CREATED by these corporations and you owe a huge chunk of your well-being, and quite likely your life, to the existence of said corporations.

If you owe money to someone and don't pay it deliberately... what else would you call it other than stealing?

Corporations get many benefits from the government (as do we all, in different ways) so is only fair that they pay taxes.

The corporate tax rate is less in recognition that they are capital generators.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#55
post #48
post #22

If you consider how much money is embezzled / stolen by (most) corporations by avoiding paying taxes for all the services they benefit from, in the countries they operate in, this seems a very good feature.

This must be the most blatantly hypocritical statement I have ever read. Money is STOLEN by corporations by not paying taxes??? How ignorant and thankless can you be? Money is CREATED by these corporations and you owe a huge chunk of your well-being, and quite likely your life, to the existence of said corporations.

A company creating value and the same company committing theft are not contradictory. One can take commendable actions AND reprimandable (?) actions.

As far as whether there is an obligation to pay taxes, well, "render unto caesar what is due to caesar" and all that.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

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post #48
post #22

If you consider how much money is embezzled / stolen by (most) corporations by avoiding paying taxes for all the services they benefit from, in the countries they operate in, this seems a very good feature.

This must be the most blatantly hypocritical statement I have ever read. Money is STOLEN by corporations by not paying taxes??? How ignorant and thankless can you be? Money is CREATED by these corporations and you owe a huge chunk of your well-being, and quite likely your life, to the existence of said corporations.

Ah, yes, because corporations exist in a vacuum and generate money from thin air, typically using up none of earth's natural resources.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#57
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny that programmers treat zero-indexing arrays and things as normal (even "correct"), but suddenly zero-indexing versions is something wacky. What's weird to me is that 0.0.0 isn't more common in the developer world, given how frequently we start counting from 0.

Yeah, but 0-based array indexing is a convenience measure. In the real world everybody would just call a[0] "the first element of the array".

Time to use lisps, am I right? :)

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#58
post #51
post #22

If you consider how much money is embezzled / stolen by (most) corporations by avoiding paying taxes for all the services they benefit from, in the countries they operate in, this seems a very good feature.

Yeah, because it would be much better if none of these companies existed.

Did the parent imply that?

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

#59
post #50
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, the world ain't black and white. Taxes are immoral, but evading taxes is probably more immoral. How low the scales are on both these is dependant on who is ruling you at the moment. Managing to build our societies around a non-cheatable taxation system would be a huge step forwards for our species. Just think how huge systems we have built just because most people don't want to pay. How much freedom and creativ…

Why are taxes immoral?

Spoiler: they aren't. It's an incredibly naive position that many "libertarians" hold.

It ignores the direct and indirect benefits that governments provide that support an entity being able to make money that can even be taxed.

It's quite a silly position.

Now specific taxes could be immoral and debate about the correct amount that it should be all you like... but the concept? No.

Re: GNU Taler 0.0.0 released

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So, semver is great and all, but 0.0.x releases just look silly, in my opinion. I've never seen someone zero index the least significant column before though, which makes it look even worse. Would people actually expect w piece of software marked as version 0.0.0 to be anything more than a placeholder?

0.0.x = proof of concept? 0.1.x = first actually usable version (but may be buggy, missing features, etc.)
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