Basic income plan clearly rejected by Swiss voters

Post by dcacaac » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:19 PM UTC

ihsw wrote: post #86

Vaebn wrote: post #66

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Maybe if they had money to spend, then they wouldn't be "unwashed" and in fact thus be part of an ever increasing economy. Unfortunately that would require an understanding of how an economy works, rather than a zero-sum mindset and collectivist hate of seeing "other" people have money who "don't deserve it" because their "birth coordinates were wrong", even if you were to receive exactly the same. Talk about self-de…

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:19 PM UTC

V-2 wrote: post #58

ihsw wrote: post #50

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Korwin-Mikke is known for his colourful language - which he doesn't reserve for so-called refugees, far from that- and a proclivity for PR scandals. He's hardly representative of Polish mainstream political class though (he himself would be greatly offended at such implication), so kindly please keep Poland as such out of it

Post by mathgeek » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:21 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #97

akerro wrote: post #63

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As already mentioned, you're ignoring a fact that even by working there for 10 years, it's close to impossible to buy a part of land and build a house anywhere near a city. Land and house prices are too high to stay there for live. It's only profitable to live there, make savings and buy 2-3 houses in Uk/Germany for it. Like two of my co-workers did.

I've never understood why people believe/feel that buying land and/or a house is the pinnacle of... something. Sure, it gives the person a feeling of control and stability. But rooting oneself in one labor market (vs. being mobile) decreases one's employment options and therefore their salary. It's also very risky, as it's the equivalent of putting one's eggs in one basket and leaves their financial wellbeing in the…

Post by riprowan » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:21 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #97

akerro wrote: post #63

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As already mentioned, you're ignoring a fact that even by working there for 10 years, it's close to impossible to buy a part of land and build a house anywhere near a city. Land and house prices are too high to stay there for live. It's only profitable to live there, make savings and buy 2-3 houses in Uk/Germany for it. Like two of my co-workers did.

I've never understood why people believe/feel that buying land and/or a house is the pinnacle of... something. Sure, it gives the person a feeling of control and stability. But rooting oneself in one labor market (vs. being mobile) decreases one's employment options and therefore their salary. It's also very risky, as it's the equivalent of putting one's eggs in one basket and leaves their financial wellbeing in the…

Post by jamesrcole » Sun, Jun 05, 2016, 1:23 PM UTC

elcapitan wrote: post #40

Inthenameofmine wrote: post #27

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While I agree about the howling, that was already not allowed. The referendum was only about the physical minarets. Unfortunately the church clocks make just as much noise in Switzerland.

At least both are short noises at predictable times. I'm very sensitive to noise, but neither church bells here nor the muezzin calling for prayer five times a day in my vacations in islamic countries have ever bothered me. On the other hand, I wish somebody would actually enforce anti-noise laws against my trash-techno neighbor at night ;)