If I entered the coordinates correctly, this is the location on Google Maps:
16°40'08.5"S 67°46'26.8"W
31 years later, we found the flight recorders
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Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's truly mind boggling that airlines don't do this. Given the cost of an aircraft and the value it represents, surely the data cost is more than worth it. I hope MH370 has changed the mindset of airlines and aircraft manufacturers. I know that pilots are against live streaming, always on voice recorders in the cockpit due to privacy concerns but surely there are ways to regulate access to that (eg: it goes to the s…
>Given the cost of an aircraft and the value it represents, surely the data cost is more than worth it. How does broadcasting to a satellite reduce current or future costs?
It's a cheap win on the customer service front, when a plane goes down.
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry, what? Last vestige? That's not even close to being correct. Off the top of my head, here are some websites that still have a separate mobile domain: YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, and a whole host of smaller websites as well. Granted, many of these do some kind of automatic redirect, so that you're redirected to the appropriate domain for the device you're using regardless of the link you follow. But…
Reddit has TWO differently shoddy mobile websites: i.reddit.com and the perma Beta m.reddit.com
Both of which somehow manage to be less usable on mobile than the desktop site....
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's truly mind boggling that airlines don't do this. They don't do it because they don't need the data. Governments do, for when they need to do search and rescue. So, governments should make it a requirement. For a manager making a decision in an airline whether or not to use this service, he would have to justify the cost to the airline. If none of his competitors are using it, then he's just got an unnecessary…
Except ADS-B is a shit show. Watch this video [1] and tell me if you really want to still trust it over radar. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CXv1j3GbgLk
For Center (high-altitude en route) operations, ADS-B is fantastic. Random, direct routing becomes much more possible, because there's an electronic box giving people the warm fuzzy feeling. (The "it's a big sky" theory would also work perfectly well here, but people feel better with a semblance of active control.)
There are no plans to shutdown all ground radio based systems. Right now, to file a flight plan in "bad" weather, either your intended airport or your alternate airport must have a legal approach that does not require GPS.
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
wikipedia has a big "never change anything" culture that resists any design changes to the main site, but doesn't seem to care about the mobile site. more likely we'll see m.wikipedia.org become more desktop-friendly and responsive before we see it happen to "desktop wikipedia". (and really, the m.wikipedia site is quite nice to use on the 11" screen i'm reading on now)
> wikipedia has a big "never change anything" culture that resists any design changes to the main site, but doesn't seem to care about the mobile site. Except for the deletionists. They like to change things!
I think that's basically the same crowd. And from one perspective, those articles never existed to start with so deleting them is just reverting a change.
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bandwidth isn't the issue as much as latency. Those collapsible sections where the content isn't loaded just mean I have to wait 10 times for 20s while trying to read an article, rather than once for 25s upfront.
Wikipedia has a large audience in areas where bandwidth is very much an issue.
Looking at a probably large page (Intel), html content for everything before references is about 250k, which becomes say 50k compressed.
Maybe for first world connections, that could be speculatively preloaded. IP address to lookup country is enough to guess?
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Given the cost of an aircraft and the value it represents, surely the data cost is more than worth it. How does broadcasting to a satellite reduce current or future costs?
The point of this data is to understand why planes crash (or how were hijacked) so that design faults, defects and crew procedures can be altered to prevent them happening again.
Not many airliners are lost, so how is your pedantic answer relevant to to answering the question about cost?
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#68What's on the last picture is mostly casing. They seem to have found a magnetic roll that hopefully contains data, but there's some risk they found nothing
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Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#69> Boeing green
That's BMS 10-11 Type 2 primer. It's a very good corrosion resistant zinc chromate paint.
Re: 31 years later, we found the flight recorders
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
There just isn't adequate satellite internet worldwide to trust that system just yet. Airplanes don't even broadcast their coordinates to satellites in many airlines, despite existing networks likely (ie Iridium) being able to handle the small increase in data (if they kept the packets small - just flight number/lat/lon - and let the satellites figure out where to send and what time the packets come, the total size f…
It's truly mind boggling that airlines don't do this. Given the cost of an aircraft and the value it represents, surely the data cost is more than worth it. I hope MH370 has changed the mindset of airlines and aircraft manufacturers. I know that pilots are against live streaming, always on voice recorders in the cockpit due to privacy concerns but surely there are ways to regulate access to that (eg: it goes to the s…
They should also install cockpit video recorders. A lot of accidents will be much easier to reconstruct what went wrong with such. For example, it could confirm who was at the controls, and if there was a struggle going on.