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Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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This one's good too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhpZoPOfZI

Can any boxing expert explain how he can be that fast? Is it a practice + muscle memory + probablistic decision or is his reaction time that good? Is he anticipating the punches or reacting to them individually?

If you are relaxed and trained you can dodge the punches because it takes time for them to reach you.

You really have to be aware of what is happening though, it's hard to learn not to flinch/close your eyes when the hand is flying to you. But if you are completely relaxed and see it coming, with good footwork and balance you can dodge many of them. You don't actually have to move your head that much, it's just the tiniest distance that will take you away from the trajectory of the punch. The thing with punches is that once you throw a punch, you can't really change its direction or it will lose most of the momentum and speed... That's why it's possible to dodge them, because they fly into particular spot and you can just move away.

It's important because it lets you counter instantly. You can only really hit somebody when they are exposed, meaning not holding the guard - so when they are punching. If you were to block the punch with your hands, you couldn't react as quickly because your hands wouldn't be in the ready position. It's really good skill to have but takes years and years of practice to develop.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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Do leftists love him or hate him? On the one hand there is that quote you just posted, but on the other there is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Y693cSF7E

Please don't create many obscure throwaway accounts on HN. This forum is a community. Anonymity is fine, but users should have some consistent identity that other users can relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community at all, and that would be an entirely different forum.

I don't agree with this sentiment. I've seen having a "consistent identity" get in the way of a discussion for a variety of reasons:

- Ad hominem attacks

- Disclosing hypocrisy (as a logical fallacy)

- Celebrity posters distracting from the subject

- Appeals to authority

Consistent identity is a no-brainer within the context of a single post; beyond that, there are downsides.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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Ali wasn't "allowed" anything. He lost his livelihood for roughly a third of his athletic prime for standing up for his beliefs. He faced constant racism and bigotry. He was viewed as a bad guy by most of the country for much of his early career. Many people even refused to call him Muhammad Ali including other African American boxers. He persevered and became popular through shear will, determination, charisma, and…

I think he's correct in the choice of the word "allowed" - yes, he had to fight for his beliefs, very hard fights, but he lived in a society that still valued individual struggle and determination, and that in the end rewarded it with success. Otherwise he couldn't have achieved what he has achieved. It's at least debatable if in today's softer world somebody who gets out and tells everybody that he's the greatest wo…

That's only because of his exceptional achievements. A normal human being, standing up for his beliefs in that period, would not have had the same treatment.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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I've read Hacker News for a long time and never published a comment until today.

Ranked by my earnings and by education I'm probably in the bottom 2% of users on this site...but I'm proud to see today that in spite of that fact I'm one of the very, very few who refuses to deify sports celebrities.

By and large the majority of you who throw adoration at Muhammed Ali never lived through his era. You never interacted with him. You never experienced him as a person other than retrospectively through his manicured public image. And yet you revere him unsparingly, without hesitation, without qualification.

How disgusting.

It is this trait in human beings, this desire to worship and affiliate with those one wishes to be like that enables power stratification in society...and always will.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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Here's one of my favorite sport highlight videos. https://youtu.be/072IsGDEpTc His speed, footwork, and power is just incredible.

Damn...whenever I watch boxing movies like Rocky, I always think the action and power look so fake compared to what you normally see when watching broadcast boxing fights. But I guess if you grew up watching videos of Ali, you'd have a higher expectation of razzle-dazzle.

Steroids were legal and veeery prevalent during these days. They increase athletes endurance and ability to take blows immensely. Boxers could get flash knocked down multiple times and still come back and win the fight. Fights like Ali vs Foreman and a lot of other fights considered best of the century are just impossible without steroids.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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I've read Hacker News for a long time and never published a comment until today. Ranked by my earnings and by education I'm probably in the bottom 2% of users on this site...but I'm proud to see today that in spite of that fact I'm one of the very, very few who refuses to deify sports celebrities. By and large the majority of you who throw adoration at Muhammed Ali never lived through his era. You never interacted wi…

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Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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And here we have classic white male tears.

Many people have commented on the misogyny and racism on tech forums like HN. However, calling it out on HN gets you banned from HN.

Which comment is misogynistic or racist, and who is 'calling it out'?

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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He is a man who have a heart that bigger than his fists. “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave maste…

Ali was of little education, easily manipulated, and certainly was not an ideological leader to any degree.

Those words are sourced from the concepts of Elijah Muhammed, Louis Farrakhan, Malcolm X and others.

Its fine to repeat Ali's words here...but lets not misconstrue them as original ideas or Ali as anything other than a follower and a mouthpiece fueled by his own anger issues.

Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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He is a man who have a heart that bigger than his fists. “Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I’m not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave maste…

Ali was of little education, easily manipulated, and certainly was not an ideological leader to any degree. Those words are sourced from the concepts of Elijah Muhammed, Louis Farrakhan, Malcolm X and others. Its fine to repeat Ali's words here...but lets not misconstrue them as original ideas or Ali as anything other than a follower and a mouthpiece fueled by his own anger issues.

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Re: Muhammad Ali has died

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post #150

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Do leftists love him or hate him? On the one hand there is that quote you just posted, but on the other there is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Y693cSF7E

Please don't create many obscure throwaway accounts on HN. This forum is a community. Anonymity is fine, but users should have some consistent identity that other users can relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community at all, and that would be an entirely different forum.

Comical request, given the extreme anti-free speech environment of Hacker News.
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