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Educate Your Immune System

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Re: Educate Your Immune System

#22
post #18

Thank's for your valuable anecdote. We can now safely ignore all the people who did get a disease or toxins doing the same.

Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity.

Why would I not say that face to face? Do you think any negative reply to anyone is bad? What horrible rose-colored world do you live in? How about you adjust your sensitivity setting? It's on an unhelpfully low level that prevents normal function and utilization of normal communication.

I also find it how remarkably consistent my experience is that people who complain about "tone" never, ever have anything to say about the actual subject.

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#24
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity.

Why would I not say that face to face? Do you think any negative reply to anyone is bad? What horrible rose-colored world do you live in? How about you adjust your sensitivity setting? It's on an unhelpfully low level that prevents normal function and utilization of normal communication. I also find it how remarkably consistent my experience is that people who complain about "tone" never, ever have anything to say ab…

You could have communicated the same idea without petty, hostile sarcasm.

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#25
post #2

Nice little article! And it confirms my anecdotal evidence, so it feels good. ;) I had a wild childhood: it happened to me to eat hamster food from his cage, eating dirt, eating sand, raw tomatoes directly from the plant, drinking waters from random streams; drinking raw milk without boiling it few minutes after milking it by hand, eating raw eggs, and when I wasn't in school, like during the summer, I had one shower…

Doesn't always work though. I grew up in the countryside and similar to you I ate dirt, wild fruit (best ever was a egg plum tree we found, though the natural laxative effect was unwelcome), drank from streams etc etc.

Unfortunately, I developed an allergy to dogs, despite living with one for nearly 10 years! I left for literally 3 months and upon my return I was allergic.

Also I still get colds and illnesses like most people (not regularly but I get them) so it's not conferred any super powers in that respect either. That might be because I have my own kids now as kids seem to take their disease spreading role seriously!!

So, I'm sure that there are big benefits to our respective early lifestyles but they're not a panacea unfortunately.

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#26
post #2

Nice little article! And it confirms my anecdotal evidence, so it feels good. ;) I had a wild childhood: it happened to me to eat hamster food from his cage, eating dirt, eating sand, raw tomatoes directly from the plant, drinking waters from random streams; drinking raw milk without boiling it few minutes after milking it by hand, eating raw eggs, and when I wasn't in school, like during the summer, I had one shower…

I promise there are plenty of patients with autoimmune disease who had childhoods just like yours. I don’t want to sound hostile but “I am not sick, because I do/did X” is a) not scientifically useful and b) somewhat insulting to patients who suffer from chronic illness. The truth is everyone has risk factors for most diseases and there is still an incredibly large probabilistic element involved - some people are just lucky. This will likely change in the future as true causes are identified of course.

The hygiene hypothesis is interesting but it’s far from proven and there are competing theories for many autoimmune diseases involving pathogens. The trendy attitude of “people were so healthy back when society was simple”, however, is blatantly false. People overall, by any reasonable metric, have better health today than they have even had in the past. As we invent vaccines and improve treatment options we simply forget about the burden of diseases that no longer exist.

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#27
> Preventing autoimmune disorders may require emulating aspects of that “dirtier” world: safely bottling the kinds of microbes that protect the Russian kids, so we can give them to everyone

Ok, so where's the productization? Where's the startup?

Surely this product/service already exists in some form or other, somewhere

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#28
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity.

Why would I not say that face to face? Do you think any negative reply to anyone is bad? What horrible rose-colored world do you live in? How about you adjust your sensitivity setting? It's on an unhelpfully low level that prevents normal function and utilization of normal communication. I also find it how remarkably consistent my experience is that people who complain about "tone" never, ever have anything to say ab…

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Re: Educate Your Immune System

#29
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be civil. Don't say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face conversation. Avoid gratuitous negativity.

Why would I not say that face to face? Do you think any negative reply to anyone is bad? What horrible rose-colored world do you live in? How about you adjust your sensitivity setting? It's on an unhelpfully low level that prevents normal function and utilization of normal communication. I also find it how remarkably consistent my experience is that people who complain about "tone" never, ever have anything to say ab…

The parent is taken literally straight from the submission guideline.

Re: Educate Your Immune System

#30
post #2

Nice little article! And it confirms my anecdotal evidence, so it feels good. ;) I had a wild childhood: it happened to me to eat hamster food from his cage, eating dirt, eating sand, raw tomatoes directly from the plant, drinking waters from random streams; drinking raw milk without boiling it few minutes after milking it by hand, eating raw eggs, and when I wasn't in school, like during the summer, I had one shower…

The "hygiene hypothesis" as you described would then prescribe that by getting "dirty" we'd improve our immune health. An interesting article was posted on HN a few months ago, a good read on "if being too clean makes us sick, why isn't getting dirty the solution."

HN Link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10944486

Article: http://theconversation.com/if-being-too-clean-makes-us-sick-...

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