Muhammad Ali has died

Post by Jommi » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 8:11 AM UTC

OmarIsmail wrote: post #5

danso wrote: post #2

After reading the NYT's obit for him, all I can think of is, wow, what a full life and long journey. Being born after his competitive career, all I mostly hear about is how he was "The Greatest", but not so much about his losses and his comebacks. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/sports/muhammad-ali-dies.h...

Here's one of my favorite sport highlight videos. https://youtu.be/072IsGDEpTc His speed, footwork, and power is just incredible.

Post by chillacy » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 8:25 AM UTC

GauntletWizard wrote: post #34

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> Muhammad Ali is something we won't allow public figures to be anymore. Being outspoken and standing up for his beliefs, against all repercussions, were his his greatest feat(s). What? You think current public figures are being prevented from being out spoken? Have you seen 50cent's twitter? Have you seen Donald Trump's? Lots of people are being out spoken, maybe more than I personally like, but whatever floats thei…

There's a big difference between Trump's blowhard populism and Muhammad Ali's firm, unpopular beliefs. Trump says things with no filter, with utter disregard for their meaning, consequence, or congruence with the last thing he said. I respect him for having the guts to be stream of consciousness and throwing out each thought, but he's not, in any of his campaign, stating policy, but just this thought process. Muhamma…

Post by lifeisstillgood » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 8:26 AM UTC

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You're correct. That's what I ultimately meant. His words were met, in the media, with challenge. Having his words even echoed was a feat in and of itself. You or I could not replicate his feat as we don't have the stage. People hinged on his every word because of his prowess in a field people could understand. Guys like LeBron James and Michael Phelps are the only folks who could garner the same level of respect in…

People don't hinge on words (although their lives may); they hang on them. The idiom is "case in point", meaning "here is an example in furtherance of my argument." Yes, that may seem like nitpicking, but whether it's fair and logical or not, people will at least partially base their assessment of your message (or argument, or what have you) on the language you use to convey it.

   No Vietcong ever called me nigger.

Post by koenbok » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 8:36 AM UTC

OmarIsmail wrote: post #5

danso wrote: post #2

After reading the NYT's obit for him, all I can think of is, wow, what a full life and long journey. Being born after his competitive career, all I mostly hear about is how he was "The Greatest", but not so much about his losses and his comebacks. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/04/sports/muhammad-ali-dies.h...

Here's one of my favorite sport highlight videos. https://youtu.be/072IsGDEpTc His speed, footwork, and power is just incredible.

Post by elcapitan » Sat, Jun 04, 2016, 8:52 AM UTC

daveguy wrote: post #45

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Damn...whenever I watch boxing movies like Rocky, I always think the action and power look so fake compared to what you normally see when watching broadcast boxing fights. But I guess if you grew up watching videos of Ali, you'd have a higher expectation of razzle-dazzle.

I wonder if is now ingrained in boxing training to move like that -- no one notices a big difference like they did with Ali because everyone is trained to move like that. Looking back through the videos I have to think that none of the heavyweight boxers move like that today. I wonder if there will be a renaissance in boxing where you have a whole generation of boxers moving like Ali. Does anyone follow boxing? Can a…