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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by aceofspades19 »

rietta wrote: post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

I use the facebook app quite a bit, and its never used more than a few precent of my battery in the battery stats on Android, and usually significantly less than my mail client(K-9 Mail) so I never understood the meme that the facebook app uses a ton of battery. Just having the screen on is going to use more battery than the facebook app.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by [deleted] »

Retra wrote: post #36
wildmusings wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They only put that spin on it because it works. If they didn't do it, they'd seriously hurt for it in the press and in the court of public opinion. Every company does it. Until people savvy up, they're getting exactly what they deserve.

Just because people are dumb about something doesn't mean they deserve to be taken advantage of. We're all dumb about one thing or another.

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by dingo_bat »

kobayashi wrote: post #10
joshschreuder wrote: post #3

Are they getting rid of messenger.com too?

When I navigate to it on my OS X and iOS platforms, it just pushes me to download the app. Was there ever something different there?

Chrome on Windows 10 shows a full-fledged messenger UI. It's quite nice. It does not redirect to the Windows universal app.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #30
jds375 wrote: post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I suspect it's less about solving problems and more about breaking out of that web browser sandbox to siphon up more of that juicy, juicy data.

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by Harimwakairi »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #30
jds375 wrote: post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I suspect it's less about solving problems and more about breaking out of that web browser sandbox to siphon up more of that juicy, juicy data.

Yep. Thank god for runtime permissions, at least.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by dingo_bat »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #32
ori_b wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The conversations are not lost; they're stored on Facebook's servers. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the move, but this isn't one.

They are moved to where I no longer have access to them.

I'm sure that's not true. Unless you have forgotten your password or something.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by notatoad »

zem wrote: post #43
iamdave wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- you can't disable notifications You absolutely can mute conversations, tap the (i) at the top of each convo, very first menu option should be "Notifications". With you on everything else.

if i understand you correctly, that's muting conversations on a one-at-a-time basis, which is not the same as being able to globally disable notifications from the app

on android at least, you can always globally disable notifications from an app: long press on a notification, tap the little i in a circle that appears, and there should be an "allow notifications" box you can un-check.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by chrisdbaldwin »

dingo_bat wrote: post #60
chrisdbaldwin wrote: post #54

Why is anyone using Facebook for chat at all? (Real question)

Because everyone has it. And it doesn't need a phone number. So it's almost as ubiquitous as SMS, without distributing your phone number. Win-win.

So if its main selling point is being ubiquitous, why the fuck wouldn't they force everyone to the same platform?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by jauer »

aceofspades19 wrote: post #61
rietta wrote: post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

I use the facebook app quite a bit, and its never used more than a few precent of my battery in the battery stats on Android, and usually significantly less than my mail client(K-9 Mail) so I never understood the meme that the facebook app uses a ton of battery. Just having the screen on is going to use more battery than the facebook app.

"It turned out other Android services including Android system and Android OS showed reduced battery consumption when the Facebook app was uninstalled. Those services act as a buffer for many apps to the outside world when running in the background. So while Facebook didn’t look like it was using that much power, it was actually just being displayed elsewhere in Android’s statistics." From: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/01/uninstall...

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by codeka »

galistoca wrote: post #31
jds375 wrote: post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

Chrome has perfectly acceptable push notification support.

I am an occasional user of Facebook Messenger, and using the mobile website was perfect: I don't care if notifications are delayed or even lost (I'll see the messages eventually anyway). But there's no way I'm going to install a separate app for something I use maybe once a week, tops.

If it stops working from the mobile website, then I just wait until I'm back at my computer to read fb messenges.

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