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How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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Zuck should have read Sun Tzu instead of Cato - "If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by." I'm not sure how much of the G+ failure can really be attributed to any particular activity of FB as a company.

I know that proverb via a popular Spanish version, and I do quote it in the book, though not in reference to Google Plus.

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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post #69

This is a fluff piece, that much is certain. To summarize it 1. Mark Zuckerberg is the Messiah, albeit with human traits of failure. (Makes a messiah more relatable) 2. Google pooh poohs Facebook 3. Google sits up and takes notice as Facebook's users pick up and Vic Gundotra's kids and their friends tell Vic that Facebook is where they are at and Vic goes to Larry Page and whispers warnings in his ears. 4. Larry best…

Sure took a while to summarize all that fluff.

ever tried to compress cotton candy into a solid ball? it takes a while :)

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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TL/DR: An interesting, adjective-heavy story about how Facebook and Zuckerburg responded to the Google+ competitive threat between 2012-2014. Zuck likened it to Roman conquering and Facebook went temporarily into "Lockdown" with seven day workweeks. Anecdotes suggest Facebook worked Sundays more often than Google. Otherwise pretty light on content.

Thank you. I stopped reading after a few paragraphs in which the author discussed several different definitions of the word genius and where he listed things that Zuckerberg is not. It was pretty clear that the author was desperately trying to fill the pages.

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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"That unfortunate first impression, plus the mischaracterization in the film The Social Network, was probably responsible for half of the ever present suspicion and paranoia surrounding Facebook’s motives. But occasionally Zuck would have a charismatic moment of lucid greatness, and it would be stunning." The lockdown thing is interesting, but you have to wade through this blathering, fawning, puff-piece nonsense. Th…

By the way "this blathering, fawning, puff-piece nonsense" is what some call an actual prose style. Perhaps you've heard of it (if never actually seen it in person).

I'd almost pay money to read your review of a Franzen or DFW book.

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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To be honest Zuckerberg could've taken an annual sabbatical and it wouldn't have made a jot of difference to Google Plus's future.

When G+ came out Facebook was pretty damn popular amongst my peers and younger friends and colleagues. G+ had some interest I'll grant you but the big question to everyone I know was 'Why? I have Facebook.' Despite that I and a lot of friends signed up. The problem was that Google's social network felt like a geeky waste land. Like a place where you post things that you don't care if anyone else sees.

Pity because from what I understand their photos app has uncanny facial recognition and auto tagging capabilities. Their email clearly is solid. Hangouts is also pretty damn good. Google have so much opportunity in the social space if they could tie all these services together in a compelling way but they really seem to be missing some key ingredients - thoughtful leadership perhaps?

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not even on board with the first one. It's a financial transaction for my services. I'll be nice and polite, but I'm not going to enter into some personal relationship where I can be pressured to tender those services as a favor or for some kind of social capital.

If you don't love what you do you are basically committing yourself to 40+ hours a week of unhappiness. Not to mention the fact that people who love what they do tend to do a better job, and improve more over the long term. I really encourage you to find a way to view your work that lets you love it, or do something else.

Not at all.

"Love what you do" is an employer tactic to maximize value and minimize cost of their employees hoping they'll work extra for passion instead of more money.

Unless you have substantial equity it's not your company. Don't be passionate about a profit, control, or ownership you were very intentionally cut from.

In this case the employer desires to run their company without paying you or dealing with you because they don't want you there. But as of today, they need you. If tomorrow they decide they don't, you'll be packing your boxes. Remember that.

If you enter into a work relationship where you are nice then you open yourself up for abuse and favors. People stop respecting your time and ideas and you slip into the role of company bitch. Set boundaries and never hesitate to leave if things are not in your favor.

It took 150 years of worker struggle to get a minimum wage, a civil war to get rid of slavery, and decades of violence to get rid of child labor. You are a worker. Remember what you are selling to the employer. Don't foolishly give away your labor capital. Maximize your own profit and minimize your own cost.

However, if you own a commensurate share, then disregard all of this as it doesn't apply.

Re: How Mark Zuckerberg Led Facebook’s War on Google Plus

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"Google Circles, a way of organizing social contacts, shamelessly copied from Facebook’s long-ignored Lists feature."

I thought it was the other way around - circles were based on a research by a guy from Google, who left later for Facebook and they built similar feature.

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