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Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by maerF0x0 »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #24
dang wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines, as have others you've posted. We ban accounts that do this, so please stop doing it, and instead post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11833516 and marked it off-topic.

I respect your work and I have no intention to challenge your authority. That said, I fail to identify the guideline that lead to this decision. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? I'm also willing to justify my claim, if it seemed gratuitous to any. EDIT: I'm unable to justify any of my claims. I'm unhappy about living in Canada, and I can't help but feel jealous of american people when being exposed to HN or mainstre…

Just post some kind of source to quantify/ substantiate your claim. Its very inflammatory as posted.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by goCanada2 »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #24
dang wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines, as have others you've posted. We ban accounts that do this, so please stop doing it, and instead post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11833516 and marked it off-topic.

I respect your work and I have no intention to challenge your authority. That said, I fail to identify the guideline that lead to this decision. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? I'm also willing to justify my claim, if it seemed gratuitous to any. EDIT: I'm unable to justify any of my claims. I'm unhappy about living in Canada, and I can't help but feel jealous of american people when being exposed to HN or mainstre…

Canada was allies with with the US after WWII. Therefore, they were 1st world. Your claim is wrong.

If you are referring to undeveloped vs developed countries, Canada is 9, while USA is 8 in the HDI. Still considered developed. You are still wrong.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by greglindahl »

miguelrochefort wrote: post #24
dang wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines, as have others you've posted. We ban accounts that do this, so please stop doing it, and instead post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11833516 and marked it off-topic.

I respect your work and I have no intention to challenge your authority. That said, I fail to identify the guideline that lead to this decision. Perhaps someone can enlighten me? I'm also willing to justify my claim, if it seemed gratuitous to any. EDIT: I'm unable to justify any of my claims. I'm unhappy about living in Canada, and I can't help but feel jealous of american people when being exposed to HN or mainstre…

Accusing people of lying is not being civil. There are many reasons why someone might disagree with you.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by serge2k »

soperj wrote: post #30
serge2k wrote: post #4

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> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

His dad has a horrible legacy out west.

The west doesn't tend to have a lot of influence. Especially when a candidate is popular out east (Ontario and Quebec). When it's conservatives coming to power it's different since Quebec tends to avoid voting conservative.

I'm from BC. Polls close and the victory is called before votes even results even really start coming in.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by schwap »

burnguy123 wrote: post #14
fudged71 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

I am not sure this is going to happen. Calgary is a very conservative city, very little public transportation, a terrible cab system (and a city council who opposes alternatives), terrible road network (especially crowchild) no nightlife and very conservative drug and alcohol laws. Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd), so the good ones just move the the USA or work remotely. I don…

> Calgary is a very conservative city

Economically? Sure. Socially? no way.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by na85 »

schwap wrote: post #35
burnguy123 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure this is going to happen. Calgary is a very conservative city, very little public transportation, a terrible cab system (and a city council who opposes alternatives), terrible road network (especially crowchild) no nightlife and very conservative drug and alcohol laws. Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd), so the good ones just move the the USA or work remotely. I don…

> Calgary is a very conservative city Economically? Sure. Socially? no way.

>Sure. Socially? no way.

Compared to what?

Calgary is more conservative than Edmonton, Toronto, Montreal, Quebec, Vancouver, and Victoria.

Perhaps it's more liberal than Red Deer or Kelowna, but that's not saying much at all.

It's also just an awful place to live. The urban sprawl makes public transit pale in comparison even to Vancouver which also has really bad transit. It's an 80 dollar cab ride to the airport which is like an hour and a half from the downtown.

There's the Stampede, I guess, but frankly I've never found the culture in Calgary much to write home about either.

If you like pickup trucks and imported American culture, then sure, Calgary sounds great.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by cdmckay »

soperj wrote: post #27
derefr wrote: post #12

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Your mention of Alberta made me realize—the low dollar, the unemployment, and the wildfire are all hitting the province of Alberta in particular. (Respectively, oil dollars, oil jobs, and oil sands, may be responsible.) And the three are intertwined: the fires aren't just destroying nature and wildlife, they're destroying liquid-asset real estate and arable farmland (i.e. jobs) as well. A lot of people are going to b…

If Alberta were it's own country their coffers would have been much bigger to deal with this mess. They probably would have also have accepted firefighters right away from other countries instead of waiting. They're is really no farmland up near fort mac. Don't know how farmland jobs are being destroyed?

Considering how they managed their Heritage Trust Fund, I somehow doubt that.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by na85 »

serge2k wrote: post #4
wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

>What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

Neither was our current PM. You're thinking the way the Conservative political strategists did. They ran their election against Trudeau Senior, not the current one.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by jlos »

fudged71 wrote: post #5
wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

>> On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources.

As far as I know, Alberta's provincial government hasn't prevented growth in other sectors. Natural resources have made a lot of sense, giving their abundance here. And despite the roller coaster ride of natural resources, the province's finances are some of the healthiest in the entire country: - Lowest Debt-GDP ratio in the country (-1.2% for Alberta, compared with 39.6% in Ontario and 49.6% in Quebec) - No Provincial Sales Tax - 3rd highest spending per capita, next to SK and NL (30% higher than Ontario and 43% higher than Quebec) - GDP/Capita almost double of every other province And all of that doesn't include the transfer payments which go out to the Eastern Provinces.

All that to say, I do hope your right and the tech ccene is Alberta can grow from current vacancies and other problems in the province. I think the province could really benefit from some natural growth in other sectors.

[0] http://www.rbc.com/economics/economic-reports/pdf/provincial... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equalization_payments_in_Canad...

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by DKnoll »

wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

1. The value of the Canadian dollar right now is much closer to the historical norm than it was when at parity for a relatively short period.

2. The unemployment rate is marginally higher than in the USA. It's bad here, but it's bad over there too... the recession never ended.

3. That's true, and to be honest, I'm glad it's expensive. Expensive means there is something and/or someone there worth saving. I would argue the Halifax explosion was far more decimating, but cost significantly less to respond to, as everything and everyone was there one minute and gone the next.

Canada is and was doing fine. As much as my heart breaks for Fort McMurray, in a country this large, most of us are a world away (Ontario myself) and it has had little tangible impact on us beyond a marginal increase in gas prices.

No offense, but Trudeau is not 'our Obama.' Trudeau is the son of a former Prime Minister who is attempting to implement dramatic social reforms just as his father did. Despite the easy comparison of Democrats to Liberals and Conservatives to Republicans, when you actually look at their policies it's clear they do not reside at the same points on the political spectrum.

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