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Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by wesd »

burnguy123 wrote: post #14
fudged71 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

I am not sure this is going to happen. Calgary is a very conservative city, very little public transportation, a terrible cab system (and a city council who opposes alternatives), terrible road network (especially crowchild) no nightlife and very conservative drug and alcohol laws. Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd), so the good ones just move the the USA or work remotely. I don…

>Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian

I have to disagree with that statement. As an example, here is a system admin job posting by City of Calgary. The pay range is $77,891 - 117,609 per annum

https://recruiting.calgary.ca/psc/pdhr/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_H...

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by msbarnett »

burnguy123 wrote: post #14
fudged71 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

I am not sure this is going to happen. Calgary is a very conservative city, very little public transportation, a terrible cab system (and a city council who opposes alternatives), terrible road network (especially crowchild) no nightlife and very conservative drug and alcohol laws. Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd), so the good ones just move the the USA or work remotely. I don…

> Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd)

That sounds low to me. Rates in Edmonton are considerably higher and I doubt Calgary skews that much lower.

Hand-wavy, since it varies by exact variety of software you're doing, but I'd say that was more than 20k+ below market for intermediate-senior exp. Still lower than the US, of course.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by andrepd »

dang wrote: post #15
miguelrochefort wrote: post #11

> I have been thinking of moving to Canada due to all the good things I hear from my Canadian friends. Either they never lived outside of Canada, either they're lying to you. Canada is a third-world country compared to the USA.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines, as have others you've posted. We ban accounts that do this, so please stop doing it, and instead post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11833516 and marked it off-topic.

Offtopic, but this is a repeated offence. Why not suspend or terminate the account?

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by miguelrochefort »

dang wrote: post #15
miguelrochefort wrote: post #11

> I have been thinking of moving to Canada due to all the good things I hear from my Canadian friends. Either they never lived outside of Canada, either they're lying to you. Canada is a third-world country compared to the USA.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines, as have others you've posted. We ban accounts that do this, so please stop doing it, and instead post civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11833516 and marked it off-topic.

I respect your work and I have no intention to challenge your authority.

That said, I fail to identify the guideline that lead to this decision. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

I'm also willing to justify my claim, if it seemed gratuitous to any.

EDIT: I'm unable to justify any of my claims. I'm unhappy about living in Canada, and I can't help but feel jealous of american people when being exposed to HN or mainstream media. I was wrong for claiming that OP's friends would lie to him. I was wrong for claiming that Canada is a third world country. I'm sorry.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by asteadman »

fudged71 wrote: post #5
wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

I can only hope, but i'm not optimistic. Diversification seems a long way off.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by soperj »

derefr wrote: post #12
fudged71 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the bright side, it is opening up some long-overdue political dialogue. For example diversification of the Alberta economy away from natural resources. Calgary's downtown office towers have reached record high vacancy rates, with so many engineers laid off. I'm hoping this is an opportunity for tech companies to take notice and move in.

Your mention of Alberta made me realize—the low dollar, the unemployment, and the wildfire are all hitting the province of Alberta in particular. (Respectively, oil dollars, oil jobs, and oil sands, may be responsible.) And the three are intertwined: the fires aren't just destroying nature and wildlife, they're destroying liquid-asset real estate and arable farmland (i.e. jobs) as well. A lot of people are going to b…

If Alberta were it's own country their coffers would have been much bigger to deal with this mess. They probably would have also have accepted firefighters right away from other countries instead of waiting. They're is really no farmland up near fort mac. Don't know how farmland jobs are being destroyed?

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by soperj »

wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

Our Obama? How so? Obama campaigned on change. The only thing that is a change w/ the way the liberals do things is they're going to legalize marijuana. Everything else is just icing on the same cake.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by maerF0x0 »

wesd wrote: post #21
burnguy123 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure this is going to happen. Calgary is a very conservative city, very little public transportation, a terrible cab system (and a city council who opposes alternatives), terrible road network (especially crowchild) no nightlife and very conservative drug and alcohol laws. Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian (54k usd), so the good ones just move the the USA or work remotely. I don…

>Software engineerings in Calgary are lucky to make 70k canadian I have to disagree with that statement. As an example, here is a system admin job posting by City of Calgary. The pay range is $77,891 - 117,609 per annum https://recruiting.calgary.ca/psc/pdhr/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_H...

Those city and CBE jobs are few and far between and usually pay much higher than private jobs. The 77k is starting wage more or less no matter what seniority and rises with yrs of service in the union.

I think most intermediate / senior engineers can make 75k a year, but starting is very low, like 50k.

Re: Canada’s $6.9B Wildfire Is the Size of Delaware and Still Out of Control

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Post by soperj »

serge2k wrote: post #4
wrong_variable wrote: post #3

Canada seems to be in so much trouble - I am wondering how things are there. # Massive flooring of the Canadian dollar. # Continued job losses months on end - Unemployment rate of 7.1% ! # Most expensive Natural Disaster in Canadian history. At least they got their Obama.

> At least they got their Obama. What? Obama wasn't elected on the strength of nice hair and Daddy's legacy.

His dad has a horrible legacy out west.
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