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Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by Retric »

intended wrote: post #70
curun1r wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No need to make them pay or support it with ads. Keep offering it to them for free and make a killing front-running them on commodities trades. Or just trade regular stocks since the whole market seems to move based on the crude prices. Either way, it should be pretty easy for a hedge fund to make way more money from eavesdropping than it costs to run the service. It would be a good way to teach an industry with plen…

While tech will eventually reach there, today is not the day that deceit becomes an acceptable business plan.

There is a huge range of billion dollar tech companies whose past disagrees with you. Consider all those deseptive titles / adds / business plans ...

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by wj »

sputknick wrote: post #3

Sounds like an opportunity for someone to buy yahoo messenger, make it work the way the oil industry wants it, and sell it to them as an industry specific chat service. No need to bring the rest of Yahoo along for the ride.

I asked a former oil trader about this and he said, "Every oil trader/broker is on it globally. It replaced a large percentage of the voice traffic. It always shocked me that Yahoo never tried to charge for it. Even just a penny per message would be massive."

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by rwc »

cphoover wrote: post #102

Anybody want to create a chat app tailored to securities trading? Seems like there is a market demand for an unobtrusive messaging app in this space.

You mean Symphony? https://symphony.com/

https://next.ft.com/content/111e433c-5b8c-11e5-9846-de406ccb...

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by Godel_unicode »

SolarNet wrote: post #81
rs999gti wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you forgot they are running a multi trillion dollar industry on free-as-in-beer software. Isn't that the basis of enterprise linux?

Linux is free-as-in-speech software. That means I could clone it in a week and sell a competing product when, say Ubuntu, starts to implode. Free-as-in-beer software doesn't have that.

I think this is a false dichotomy, Linux is both free as in beer (unless you choose to pay for it) and free as in speech.

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by bzbarsky »

Aloha wrote: post #50
oh_sigh wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, don't you know that the oil industry is just digging holes. Real high-tech is working on hard problems like how to deliver grilled cheese sandwiches

Artisanal, organic, locally sourced, (and optionally) vegan and gluten free grilled cheese sandwiches.

Organic and gluten free oil should not be too hard. Locally sourced is pretty location-dependent. Artisanal may take more work; whether one considers petroleum vegan is an interesting philosophical question.

I sense a business opportunity here; perhaps artisanal, organic, locally sourced oil sandwiches?

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by pjc50 »

bzbarsky wrote: post #106
Aloha wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artisanal, organic, locally sourced, (and optionally) vegan and gluten free grilled cheese sandwiches.

Organic and gluten free oil should not be too hard. Locally sourced is pretty location-dependent. Artisanal may take more work; whether one considers petroleum vegan is an interesting philosophical question. I sense a business opportunity here; perhaps artisanal, organic, locally sourced oil sandwiches?

Drill an artesian well and hope that nobody notices the spelling?

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by Apofis »

meric wrote: post #56

It sounds like Yahoo has wasted one opportunity after another. Yahoo clearly did not know why the oil industry is using Yahoo Messenger. Instead of doubling down and building a product for that market, they build a replacement product that's going to be detached from the needs of its users.

I don't see why it's so difficult for them to introduce logging in the new messenger.

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by SolarNet »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #105
SolarNet wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is free-as-in-speech software. That means I could clone it in a week and sell a competing product when, say Ubuntu, starts to implode. Free-as-in-beer software doesn't have that.

I think this is a false dichotomy, Linux is both free as in beer (unless you choose to pay for it) and free as in speech.

You're right it's not a dichotomy, but the property free-as-in-speech is the one that helps here, free-as-in-beer doesn't matter either way in this case (besides it's initial popularity).

Re: Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

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Post by Aloha »

pjc50 wrote: post #107
bzbarsky wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Organic and gluten free oil should not be too hard. Locally sourced is pretty location-dependent. Artisanal may take more work; whether one considers petroleum vegan is an interesting philosophical question. I sense a business opportunity here; perhaps artisanal, organic, locally sourced oil sandwiches?

Drill an artesian well and hope that nobody notices the spelling?

can confirm; am writing business plan and looking for seed funding ;-D.
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