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Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by HemanHeartYou »

themagician wrote: post #156
kobayashi wrote: post #150

Well, you're right that the ad problem drives people away, but you're wrong in saying that they deliver the same information in a functionally different but essentially similar method. I broadcast and ingest very different information on Snapchat than I ever did on facebook. The ephemeral nature of Snapchat, combined with the lack of public "likes" makes it a much more positive experience to post, and thus I in turn…

Because you got into Facebook so late. People who are 20 are doing on Snapchat today what I did on Facebook when I was 20: multicasting. I either want to send a message to everyone or to a group. Sometimes in a personal message. I see almost no real difference in content. Snapchat might be a little racier in personal messages, but that happened on FB and Twitter as well. The ephemeral nature was built into Facebook a…

>as you become older the thing that's changing is you.

Reminds me of a quote from the NightWatch movie

>...the world hasn't changed, only you.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by afro88 »

weavie wrote: post #233
mrweasel wrote: post #201

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>Someone invents a service that does that. Slowly ads take over. The problem really is that no one wants to pay for services, or no one is willing to try charging for their services. Ads are the "safe" option, but it will also make your users leave in the long run. I was pretty baffled when a publisher wrote that they would rather make money from ads on their site, than make money from people buying a subscription. S…

So what is the alternative? We don't want to pay, we don't want ads.. how else can these things make money?

Is it a possibility that these services eventually tank due to this very reason? They just get kept afloat long enough for a run of VCs to make some money, until the sucker VCs at the end put up with the loss from the company folding?

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by gremy0 »

rescripting wrote: post #118
ryandrake wrote: post #83

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That's another thing I don't understand--how is "automatically deleting" a feature? Why would I care if the recipient eventually deletes something I send them? I've literally never given any thought to what people do with E-mails I sent them, since it doesn't affect me at all. They can print it and hang it on their wall or take a screenshot of it and use it as their desktop background for all I care.

Flip it and look at it from the other side. Your inbox filling up with emails and attachments creates cognitive load; you have to decide what to do with all of them eventually. When you're consuming stories/snaps you see it, and it's gone. No overhead.

Additionally, if you needed something that did need persisted you would hopefully have the wit to send it on another service (e.g. email) so automatic filtering for all recipients.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by vidarh »

brianwawok wrote: post #69
ChazDazzle wrote: post #55

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Thirty something here. The stories aren't spam since they don't trigger notifications and you have to intentionally click on them to watch. When i'm not feeling social I ignore snapchat, when i am, i know i can check in and see what my friends are doing.

Why don't you ask them if you want to know what they are doing? I still don't get it.

I think this may be largely an introvert vs. extrovert type distinction. I'm with you - I don't see the point. Twitter is the social network I've come closest to enjoy using, because of the loose expectations around it. I share stuff I find interesting on occasion, but very rarely anything about myself.

In terms of "social" I see it as a mostly-write type environment - I don't sweat that I ignore 90% of what the people I follow write, and I mostly follow people for updates/news/commentary rather than social contact.

But then I'm very aware that I'm very introverted. I like social contact in moderation, but it exhausts me, and every now and again I just get "social burnout" and turns into a total recluse for months on end.

What doesn't work for me about Snapchat is primarily that it is video. Video to me is "high touch" - it takes much more energy than writing a tweet, and similarly watching a video requires magnitudes more attention than rapidly scanning past a bunch of tweets.

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Post by ElijahLynn »

Another 30something here:

Just spent the past month forcing myself to understand Snapchat and I finally get it now. Took a bit, especially since the whole experience is heavily gamified. I swear the developers are huge video game junkies!

The big takeaway is that Snapchat is just much more personal and real than the text based social networks.

For those interested in trying it out I recommend.

Mark Suster => https://www.snapchat.com/add/msuster (Venture Capitalist, tech/leadership 'Snapstorms')

Justin Kan => https://www.snapchat.com/add/justinkan (creator Justin TV, now Twitch, very open in business/tech)

Here is my snapchat as well https://www.snapchat.com/add/mrelijahlynn

edit: This article got me to try Snapchat, I was a big fan of Justin TV and streamed a ton of content, including live broadcasts from the Ron Paul Blimp. http://justinkan.com/why-i-love-snapchat

Also, this article can get you up to speed on the very different UX => https://bothsidesofthetable.com/snapchat-101-for-vcs-and-old...

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by HemanHeartYou »

ElijahLynn wrote: post #255

Another 30something here: Just spent the past month forcing myself to understand Snapchat and I finally get it now. Took a bit, especially since the whole experience is heavily gamified. I swear the developers are huge video game junkies! The big takeaway is that Snapchat is just much more personal and real than the text based social networks. For those interested in trying it out I recommend. Mark Suster => https://…

Good goy

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Post by 0x6c6f6c »

puranjay wrote: post #215
ChazDazzle wrote: post #55

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Thirty something here. The stories aren't spam since they don't trigger notifications and you have to intentionally click on them to watch. When i'm not feeling social I ignore snapchat, when i am, i know i can check in and see what my friends are doing.

But...why? Why do you want people to see what you ate? Is everyone here living more interesting lives than me? I mean, my stories will be just the same old lunch and dinner pics, working before a computer, commuting to and from work...

Some people are.

Or not everybody shares their everyday activities, just when something worth sharing actually occurs

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Post by brickmort »

shrikant wrote: post #198
xux wrote: post #63

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> If I want a thing to disappear I simply don't create it. The point is that it mimics a natural conversation. Do you refuse to speak just because no one is recording you?

I will admit to being one of the Snapchat non-getters, despite having tried to use it for over a month. (Maybe I don't have enough friends that actively use it?) I will also admit that I was of the same opinion as GP comment. However, this analogy of yours just blew my mind -- I've never thought of it that way!

I signed up for Snapchat and didn't use it for an entire year. It just didn't make sense. The whole thing seemed pointless to me. Then it clicked. I'm not sure what it was, but once you have friends using Snapchat, it definitely becomes more enjoyable. If you don't know anyone with a Snapchat, Try following some celebrities first.

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Post by stuartleigh »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #245
lovemenot wrote: post #237

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>> for me living ~30 hours flight from my nearest family, Where in the world do you and your family live? I imagine you must be in Antarctica?

GP is probably including the time it takes to get to the airport, get through the baggage drop, security and boarding procedures, as well as get from the airport to their destination. It can easily add up if both they and their family live in places far from their respective airports, and we're talking intercontinental flight.

Probably, it takes me almost 30 hours to get from the UK to Australia if you could airport transfers and stopovers.

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Post by mnsc »

prawn wrote: post #51
stormbeta wrote: post #44

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>You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life? Disappearing spam is still spam. I'm 28, nobody I know uses snapchat/instagram/whatever so I haven't actually used it. If it's something I actu…

I don't use SnapChat, but once you have children, your parents and siblings are interested in seeing the funny little day to day things your kids do. 5 seconds here and there of eating breakfast, getting dressed for the day, running around, etc. Twitter and Instagram don't really cover that use case well at all. I use private photos/videos on Instagram to share those things with my family, but it's very clunky and wo…

We use groupchat in WhatsApp. Two separate groups, one for each side of the family. Works ok but I can kinda begin to see the benefit of snapchat's ephemeral attitude even though I haven't tried it myself. However I don't se my wife's mother wanting to switch. She's retired and finds a great deal of joy of revisiting old movies of the kids. She would want to save the snaps anyways but I guess you can do that?
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