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Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

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post #7

I mean YouTube UI is a disgrace really, what is it about big companies that stop them from being able to do design properly (even Apple post Jobs is starting to experience this).

Do you have any examples or are you just saying that because you hate big companies?

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

#34
post #27

Very nice, love it! BTW is there any plugin that hides videos with over a certain amount of views? (I know I'm so edgy, right)

What is your rationale behind that ? (curious)

My general distaste for popular culture, I guess… Seriously though: there are of course exceptions, but my experience is that videos with 2+ million views aren't for me, as well as all the videos and channels featured by youtube itself, which usually fall into this category. When I see those, I won't watch them, so might as well just filter them out. Especially true for music. Just a personal preference, really.

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

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post #18
post #7

I mean YouTube UI is a disgrace really, what is it about big companies that stop them from being able to do design properly (even Apple post Jobs is starting to experience this).

Probably because it becomes design by committee at a certain point, and some functionality interrupts or excludes other design intents by nature. For example, in the linked extension, it overlays (replaces?) the youtube recommended videos once you submit a search query - as part of the recommendation stuff seems to be driving high-traffic related vids to the viewer, many of which are ad-monetized, this has a marginal…

I agree - design by committee is probably the culprit.

Generally, when one (or a couple) experienced designers get their hands on a UI, it turns out alright. Its the 'mish-mash' effect where multiple people try to control the look and feel, where things go south.

This can be because of a literal committee, but it can also be due to poorly designed software trying to take away design decisions from the designer.

Just take a look at the mess CSS made of things in the browser. For years, it was easier to design something that looked good by just hard-coding an interface in a native language...

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

#36
post #7

I mean YouTube UI is a disgrace really, what is it about big companies that stop them from being able to do design properly (even Apple post Jobs is starting to experience this).

What's wrong with it, exactly? The video player gives me fewer problems than other players, and the site as a whole seems to have everything needed to watch videos.

Aside from there being bugs, like videos not appearing in your subscriptions page, missing thumbnails, video (you just hear the audio of it) continuing to play in the background while you can browse the site normally?

One option I'm missing is as simple as reversing playlists (often they are in counter-chronological order when they shouldn't be) or that I can't order the subscribed channels on the left panel manually (I have so many subscriptions, that I have to get to the subscriptions manager, scroll all the way down and go to the second page to find some of my favorite channels) or infinite scroll which makes the viewport jump around when using the back button jump around and generally feels slow and clunky (although YT's implementation is not the worst out there at least.)

The player itself is quite nice here on Chromium (not HW-accelerated but that's a longstanding Chromium/Intel bug), I agree. Otherwise the site is relatively fast and reliable; I like especially the video streaming smoothness and automatic quality detection, which is lightyears ahead of anything I have seen elsewhere.

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

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post #7

I mean YouTube UI is a disgrace really, what is it about big companies that stop them from being able to do design properly (even Apple post Jobs is starting to experience this).

What's wrong with it, exactly? The video player gives me fewer problems than other players, and the site as a whole seems to have everything needed to watch videos.

I don't have issues with the page design like the grand-parent does, but I'd like a way to make the video go "full window" in addition to "full screen" (yes I can fake this to some extent).

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

#38
post #14

Nice, this is something that has been driving me mad. Always liked how bandcamp or soundcloud kept playing the music in the background while browsing. Not the exact same, but seeing as how YT requires the videos to always be visible when played I guess it's as good as it can get.

For me the site requires a video to be visible once, so it starts to play. Playlists, once started, play indefinitely in the background regardless.

Re: Show HN: Search YouTube without stopping the video, and make your own playlists

#39
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your rationale behind that ? (curious)

My general distaste for popular culture, I guess… Seriously though: there are of course exceptions, but my experience is that videos with 2+ million views aren't for me, as well as all the videos and channels featured by youtube itself, which usually fall into this category. When I see those, I won't watch them, so might as well just filter them out. Especially true for music. Just a personal preference, really.

Maybe you have become biased by the number of views. You could try, as an experiment, to write a script that hides the number of views as well as likes and dislikes. Then keep track of the videos you liked and disliked and then check how many views they have.
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