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Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by rpgmaker »

dcw303 wrote: post #93

Social media networks are like night clubs. Myspace was edgy and underground, then it got invaded by the masses and it was no longer trendy, so everyone went to Facebook. Facebook was good for a while but now your parents and family are in every conversation. How much fun can you have in a nightclub with your parents watching everything you do? Twitter is more like a massive dance hall filled with people shouting at…

> Facebook was good for a while but now your parents and family are in every conversation. How much fun can you have in a nightclub with your parents watching everything you do?

The reports about Facebook's decline are greatly exaggerated imho. I don't use it myself but every time I side glance at someone's phone the FB app seems to be in the foreground. It seems that it's no longer cool to admit using it very often but I think most people do, regardless of what they say to one another.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by lopatin »

seizethecheese wrote: post #122
dcw303 wrote: post #93

Social media networks are like night clubs. Myspace was edgy and underground, then it got invaded by the masses and it was no longer trendy, so everyone went to Facebook. Facebook was good for a while but now your parents and family are in every conversation. How much fun can you have in a nightclub with your parents watching everything you do? Twitter is more like a massive dance hall filled with people shouting at…

This begs for a description of HN as a nightclub.

Must be prepared for rust...y dance moves

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by rpgmaker »

prawn wrote: post #51
stormbeta wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life? Disappearing spam is still spam. I'm 28, nobody I know uses snapchat/instagram/whatever so I haven't actually used it. If it's something I actu…

I don't use SnapChat, but once you have children, your parents and siblings are interested in seeing the funny little day to day things your kids do. 5 seconds here and there of eating breakfast, getting dressed for the day, running around, etc. Twitter and Instagram don't really cover that use case well at all. I use private photos/videos on Instagram to share those things with my family, but it's very clunky and wo…

> I don't use SnapChat, but once you have children, your parents and siblings are interested in seeing the funny little day to day things your kids do.

No they aren't interested. They are just too nice to tell you to stop spamming them.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by burkaman »

stormbeta wrote: post #105
ChazDazzle wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thirty something here. The stories aren't spam since they don't trigger notifications and you have to intentionally click on them to watch. When i'm not feeling social I ignore snapchat, when i am, i know i can check in and see what my friends are doing.

I'm still lost. Maybe I just have radically different friends than everyone else here, but if I really have some pressing need to know what they're doing on a given day, I just ask them. Nobody cares about the day-to-day minutia, and if it was interesting, stuff like FB or regular messages work just fine. Like most social media apps, this just feels like a solution in search of a problem (except for sexting).

I think "solution in search of a problem" is a fine description, and not really a bad thing. Nobody says "I want a photo sharing app" and downloads Snapchat after doing some research. You get it because your friends have it, and you keep using it because you enjoy it. If your friends aren't using it, then you won't like it because there won't be anything to do.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by burkaman »

anamoulous wrote: post #113
sharkweek wrote: post #15

30something here - It took me a while to "get" Snapchat, but in my opinion there is no better way to keep up with friends and family digitally than via Snapchat Stories. You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. Posting more than once or twice a day to Instagram/Facebook seems excessive, Twitter is a bit m…

Why are we content to let the pictures and videos we create disappear though?

Because it's not about creating anything, it's just like conversation. You don't remember 99% of the conversations you've had in life either, and you're content not recording them.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by rpgmaker »

stormbeta wrote: post #44
sharkweek wrote: post #15

30something here - It took me a while to "get" Snapchat, but in my opinion there is no better way to keep up with friends and family digitally than via Snapchat Stories. You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. Posting more than once or twice a day to Instagram/Facebook seems excessive, Twitter is a bit m…

>You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life? Disappearing spam is still spam. I'm 28, nobody I know uses snapchat/instagram/whatever so I haven't actually used it. If it's something I actu…

> This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life?

That is the decease of our age. People really can't see the narcissism needed to keep all of these social networks going.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by rpgmaker »

stormbeta wrote: post #44
sharkweek wrote: post #15

30something here - It took me a while to "get" Snapchat, but in my opinion there is no better way to keep up with friends and family digitally than via Snapchat Stories. You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. Posting more than once or twice a day to Instagram/Facebook seems excessive, Twitter is a bit m…

>You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life? Disappearing spam is still spam. I'm 28, nobody I know uses snapchat/instagram/whatever so I haven't actually used it. If it's something I actu…

> This is the part I still don't get. Why would I want to constantly spam my friends with trivial photos of my daily life?

That is the decease of our age. People really can't see the narcissism needed to keep all of these social networks going.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by chambo622 »

lowmess wrote: post #52

Twitter = realtime news/sports, one-to-many jokes/announcements or whatever Snapchat = catch up on friends & families days, one-to-one connection It's OK that they each have their purpose, and I wish both services's stated goals would embrace that. And maybe I use those services different than other people, but I just think it's strange that two wildly different services are competing for the same eyeballs in the sam…

At some level _every_ service is competing with every other for users' time. But at some point, such comparisons become meaningless.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by lisowski »

gre wrote: post #121
anamoulous wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are we content to let the pictures and videos we create disappear though?

That's the part I don't like about it. The president's car passes at a rally, do I take phone video or snapchat it or just enjoy the moment?

A lot of people i know default, including me, to using snapchat as their main camera in most situations. You can download whatever you take a picture of through the app and choose not to post it at all. It has all the features i need from the camera plus some basic photo editing. Also the reverse isn't true: I cant take a picture through the normal camera then choose to post it to snapchat. this both locks you into using the Snapchat camera and ensures that most pics you see on snapchat are taken in the moment, which is very important to the app. btw I'm 23

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by alive2007 »

In other news, bananas have surpassed OS X in daily Caloric consumption. I knew Apple couldn't make it without Jobs.

People conflate the purposes of various products under the umbrella term "social network", which makes the assumption that all social networks offer arbitrarily similar function. Simply not true.

Snapchat offers ephemeral pictoral content with humorous ad-hoc additive filters. This tailors the product for those that desire ephemeral pictoral content with humorous ad-hoc additive filters. Apparently, a bunch of young kids.

Twitter offers what is now known through the shorthand, "microblogging". This tailors the product for people who like "microblogging". Apparently, a bunch of people, the median age being higher than Snapchat's median age.

Just because more people are spending time on Snapchat than on Twitter, does not mean that Snapchat is "taking away" from Twitter time. Perhaps different people are signing up for Snapchat that are not signed up for Twitter. Perhaps people that are spending X hours on Twitter are now spending Y hours on Snapchat without taking away from the X hours spent on Twitter. Elapsed eyeball time, and, ergo, ad revenue, are still the same. This isn't a zero-sum game. Twitter shouldn't break a sweat because Snapchat is getting more popular. Facebook shouldn't break a sweat because Twitter's no-character limit policy may increase user base.

Perhaps the zero-sum approach to competition makes sense in certain fields, like when products are similar substitutes of each other; like two different kinds of general-purpose glue offered on the market. Or when market capitalization of a certain kind of product is fixed : it's been widely assumed that the average American's entertainment budget is relatively fixed, so in a philosophical sense, if one popular band didn't exist, another popular band would be more popular.

But when it comes to products like "social networks"? With vast design philosophies and product focus and varying demographics? It's very reductionist to publish a headlines like this and assume it makes any sort of meaningful conclusions. As with any sufficiently popular business, this stuff is capital-C complicated and you can't explain relative differences in success using singular metrics like this.

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