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Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#11

Post by admin-enso-now »

jacquesm wrote: post #9
admin-enso-now wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, thanks for you comments. All the specs are visible in our website, i do not what's wrong with you, if something is not clear please just send an email to us at info@enso-now.com I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. Regarding the logo issue, i am getting…

> I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. I call you a scammer and a spammer, now please sue me. My puppy is a legal entity too, that doesn't mean that I can't call it whatever I like and if you come here to hawk your product and you get called out on numerous…

I don't know who are you and where you come from, but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry. Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship? actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing content according to the niche they are targeting. I do not know exactely of what you are accusing me, from my point of view, you have no clues and you are just defamating me and my business. It is a normal practice for developers to to reuse code and content, and editing it, of course. I did not steal any logo and i do not have anything to hide. I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship. I am not threating you, i just say that the word Scammy should not be used without serious proofs. You could disrupt my business do you know ? business could mean life sometimes. Please provide me your full name and contact info by mail at alberto.armandi@gmail.com. Thanks

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#12

Post by admin-enso-now »

jacquesm wrote: post #10
admin-enso-now wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, and does not have support for video calls. Our privacy policy is just standard, does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? i did not know that. What do you find funny about our email address ? please share a good laugh with me. Thanks!

> The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, It does eh ? From your own website, the specs page: "GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) via external micro USB dongle" So, no you don't have phone functionality. > does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? Does it add value ? No, but it means that you are not above infringing on someone else's copyright which in turn means tha…

I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making your self look ridiculous acting like this. I would have expected comments about how to improve. not rude rants like yours. And thanks for let me know about that typo, i will fix it now, English is not my mother tongue anyway. Our spec page is inspired from the apple one, our whole website is differenet. Our company is called Enso Co. Ltd, snf not Mr Legal Entity, so please note it. You really like to spy other people's lifes. Do you have one on your own ? Uptailor.com is my customer. I am a web developer also, so there is nothing wrong with it. All developers recycle their codebase, you did not know that ? It is a pity. Thanks anyway for all your comments. They are precious. Albertp

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#13

Post by jacquesm »

admin-enso-now wrote: post #11
jacquesm wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I advice you not to use the words Scammy and Spammy, because we are a legal entity, and i might taking legal actions against you, because you does not have any solid argumentation to call us spammy. I call you a scammer and a spammer, now please sue me. My puppy is a legal entity too, that doesn't mean that I can't call it whatever I like and if you come here to hawk your product and you get called out on numerous…

I don't know who are you and where you come from, but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry. Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship? actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing content according to the niche they are targeting. I do not know exactely of what you are accusing me, from my point of view, you have no clues and you are…

> I don't know who are you and where you come from,

No, that much is clear.

> but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry.

Boy, I really must have missed out on some education somewhere.

> Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship?

Yes, in fact I have. Let me guess, you're one of those ?

> actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing content according to the niche they are targeting.

Yes, but it does not normally do that by taking other peoples content and repurposing it, it does that by re-using your own content. Taking the specs page from your competitor and modifying it a bit, a logo here and a bunch of web template code somewhere else... It adds up you know.

> I do not know exactely of what you are accusing me,

I really can't help that...

> from my point of view, you have no clues and you are just defamating me and my business.

You and your business ?

No, I am not 'defamating' (what's that?) you, I'm telling you what I think of your business practice and since this is an open forum that's the sort of thing you have to expect.

This being HN I'm keeping it very civil, given the amount of funny vibes you are giving me, and your apparent lack of knowledge about your own product.

> it is a normal practice for developers to to reuse code and content, and editing it,

No, it really isn't. Especially not if that includes copying pages from your competitors websites.

> of course. I did not steal any logo and i do not have anything to hide.

Correction, you've taken lots of stuff, that logo is indeed suspiciously like the one that you use and you have lots to hide but you're not very good at it.

> I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship.

Hey, sorry, but not that long ago you wrote that you could ship 500 units in a week. Now we're several weeks off. And is that the version that contains a GSM radio or not ?

> I am not threating you, i just say that the word Scammy should not be used without serious proofs.

This is not a court of law and I think that scammy as an adjective more than applies to the kind of image you portray here.

> You could disrupt my business do you know ?

Possibly. If your business includes taking orders where you claim to be 'shipping product' when in fact you are at a minimum weeks and probably much more away from being able to do so I sincerely hope that I can stop people from sending you money before you are able to ship.

> Please provide me your full name and contact info by mail at alberto.armandi@gmail.com

Why, are you going to send me a complimentary free unit :) ?

Let me give you some free advice:

Leave this site alone, the people here in general are not going to fall for your scheme and if they do you are probably biting off more than you can chew.

Get yourself a nice fresh domain, pay a web designer a couple of hundred bucks to make YOUR logo and website for you and don't ask people to send you their hard earned cash before you are ready to ship.

If your businessplan revolves around taking pre-orders pretending to be in the shipping phase but actually still in ramp-up and you are not a large scale manufacturer yet then you are simply asking for trouble.

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#14

Post by admin-enso-now »

jacquesm wrote: post #4
enso-now wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, thanks a lot for your comment, here is my reply : 1) I don't take your comment as an offense, that is my first rule. Otherwise i won't be posting here on HN 2) On the website http://enso-now.com you can find detailed specs, like memory capacity yes. What do you mean by list of "goodies"? do you mean the 3G usb dongle ? i can get it for almost any standard in the world. Don't forget that i am in China, here is whe…

Look, if you bought the prototype today you are not ready to ship. And as to '4', that's in response to yesterdays thread when the maximum capacity was still 2G. And me not being the 'entrepreneurial' kind of guy is hilarious, thank you. You write you will send some 'prototypes' to influential tech blogs, but you seem to completely get the terminology wrong here. Prototype, pre-production, 0 series and production are…

As i final note, i will send the prototype for review soon to some major tech blogs, in the hope they will review us. You will then be able to speak with a clue. Thanks a lot. Alberto

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

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Post by jacquesm »

admin-enso-now wrote: post #12
jacquesm wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The device has phone functionality but only with GSM networks, It does eh ? From your own website, the specs page: "GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz) via external micro USB dongle" So, no you don't have phone functionality. > does it add a lot of value rewriting from scratch like 3000 words ? Does it add value ? No, but it means that you are not above infringing on someone else's copyright which in turn means tha…

I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making yo…

So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too.

Look familiar ?

http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#16

Post by admin-enso-now »

jacquesm wrote: post #13
admin-enso-now wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know who are you and where you come from, but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry. Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship? actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing content according to the niche they are targeting. I do not know exactely of what you are accusing me, from my point of view, you have no clues and you are…

> I don't know who are you and where you come from, No, that much is clear. > but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry. Boy, I really must have missed out on some education somewhere. > Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship? Yes, in fact I have. Let me guess, you're one of those ? > actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing con…

> I don't know who are you and where you come from, No, that much is clear. > I am really not interested in this. but your instruction level seems really insufficient, at least for what is regarding the web industry. Boy, I really must have missed out on some education somewhere. > You can say boy to your little brother if if you have one,or to any child you meet on the street ( assuming police does allow you to do that, you know nowadays you cannot trust anybody on that street. Anyway that might be, i don't know your skills. > Have you ever heard of serial entrepreneurship? Yes, in fact I have. Let me guess, you're one of those ? > No i am not. > actually this industry WORKS by duplicating sites and changing content according to the niche they are targeting. Yes, but it does not normally do that by taking other peoples content and repurposing it, it does that by re-using your own content. Taking the specs page from your competitor and modifying it a bit, a logo here and a bunch of web template code somewhere else... It adds up you know. > Let's get real here and checkout reality. Not your fantasy. No, I am not 'defamating' (what's that?) you, I'm telling you what I think of your business practice and since this is an open forum that's the sort of thing you have to expect. This being HN I'm keeping it very civil, given the amount of funny vibes you are giving me, and your apparent lack of knowledge about your own product. > You can check about the word "Defamating" here : http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defamating I know well my product, you really seem too proud of your man. Who are you ? What are your achievements? > it is a normal practice for developers to to reuse code and content, and editing it, No, it really isn't. Especially not if that includes copying pages from your competitors websites. > It is, despite what you say, i fill fix details in the next days. > I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship. Hey, sorry, but not that long ago you wrote that you could ship 500 units in a week. Now we're several weeks off. And is that the version that contains a GSM radio or not ? > Yes i am able to ship within a week, do you have an order to place? otherwise you are just wasting my time. > I am not threating you, i just say that the word Scammy should not be used without serious proofs. This is not a court of law and I think that scammy as an adjective more than applies to the kind of image you portray here. > You can use the adjective scammy, but consider that my brand name will be linked on google to this post for quite some time. > You could disrupt my business do you know ? Possibly. If your business includes taking orders where you claim to be 'shipping product' when in fact you are at a minimum weeks and probably much more away from being able to do so I sincerely hope that I can stop people from sending you money before you are able to ship. > I am able to ship orders as soon as i get money; i repeat it to you, you are disrupting my business with useless and pointless defamation. > Please provide me your full name and contact info by mail at alberto.armandi@gmail.com Why, are you going to send me a complimentary free unit :) ? > Why not, would you like to receive one ? could you help me? Anyway i take your advices and comments as precious , despite the tones of our conversation. Alberto

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

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Post by cheald »

jacquesm wrote: post #15
admin-enso-now wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making yo…

So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...

To expound on that, http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-le... has the OP commenting that he's ordering a lot of the SMiT devices, and is in a "trading" business. I think we're looking at a reseller here, not a manufacturer, which would explain a lot of the confusion regarding the specs and shippability of the device.

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#18

Post by jacquesm »

cheald wrote: post #17
jacquesm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...

To expound on that, http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-le... has the OP commenting that he's ordering a lot of the SMiT devices, and is in a "trading" business. I think we're looking at a reseller here, not a manufacturer, which would explain a lot of the confusion regarding the specs and shippability of the device.

Good find.

So much for 'prototypes' then, in that post he writes it is a sample. Bit of a difference there.

That also explains why he hasn't got a clue about the normal phases a piece of hardware goes through before you are in a position to ship product.

I still don't get where the discrepancy of "Anyway i am not pre-selling anything, the device is currently produced and i can ship you 500 hundreds of pieces to you in a week." to "I am just a couple of weeks away from being able to ship." comes from as well as the documentation stating clearly that the base unit definitely does not have phone capability (it's marketed as a media player) and yet 'Alberto' states clearly that it has, but on their specs page it says that GSM/EDGE/UMTS are through a dongle.

Maybe his minimum order volume is 500 pieces and he hopes that he can scrape together the money to get the order delivered.

That could lead to 'interesting' situations if not enough people order.

have a read here:

http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-...

I guess selling fake brand watches wasn't enough of an income stream:

http://watch-replicas.net/

enso-now and admin-enso-now are sockpuppets for lostintech, who professes to have some idea of how to spot fake watches:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1116174

No kidding...

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

#19

Post by admin-enso-now »

cheald wrote: post #17
jacquesm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...

To expound on that, http://phandroid.com/2009/08/18/smit-android-mid-560-gets-le... has the OP commenting that he's ordering a lot of the SMiT devices, and is in a "trading" business. I think we're looking at a reseller here, not a manufacturer, which would explain a lot of the confusion regarding the specs and shippability of the device.

When you will come to Shenzhen, setup this business and meet with Smith, maybe you will understand. I am not sure though, you are able to do all these things. I live in China since years and i do trading for a living. i have many connections here that can help overcome any problem. I think i do know much more practical things to get things done in a totally clear way, than you. Sincerely. Alberto

Re: Carry in your pocket Google Android MID with Wifi, 3G and GPS

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Post by enso-now »

jacquesm wrote: post #15
admin-enso-now wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are just a frustrated mind, that does not have any better reason to spend time. Again, the phone has GSM functionality, if you want to bought it is there for you to try. I did not infringe any copyright, the English language is free and i can use it as i want, i have freedom of speech as you. Our company is not a "corporate" as you call it, it is a startup and we are young guys, and you are just making yo…

So, after seeing you don't seem to care about ripping off bits and pieces of web design I figured there might be more to this, maybe you ripped off the design of your 'ensopad' too. Look familiar ? http://www.smit.com.cn/English/proDetail.asp?InfoId=126&...

Ripped off what ? that is the product i have rebranded and i am selling, please see http://www.ipadforums.net/ipad-general-discussions/291-tons-... . Thank you!
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