If you replace "Twitter" with "Yahoo" and "Jack" with "Marissa" these stories can be from 3 years ago.
Along those lines you can start taking current stories about "Yahoo" and make them "Twitter" and see the future....
Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey
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#62Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit? There are inherent limitations to any given "thing" and perhaps Twitter has found its own terminal velocity.
I'm guessing they believe 300 million (about 1 in 20 of the world population or about 1 in 4 of the developed world population) is not their natural limit. Facebook has 1.65bn monthly active users. Facebook is obviously a very different product but I'm sure they're looking at those numbers and wondering why they are here and not there.
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"Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit?" I think of craigslist when I read that. It's just a useful thing that works. Nothing else. I wish there were more things like that.
> I wish there were more things like that. Perhaps not coincidentally, craigslist is not a public company.
Any idea on how much revenue they bring in? I tried a quick google search but couldn't find any recent numbers.
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#64Twitter should grow horizontally now, not vertically. Company keeps a blind eye on its brand strength.
Why not open up new services closely connected to Twitter:
-Video Hosting site - YT and LiveLeak competitor, but without all the noise
-Social Network where Twitter is a core, but social network by itself would be separate product - "wall" could use Twitter feed, this would work perfectly...
-Image hosting company - Imgur competitor
-News distribution and news curation company - its almost already that, worth investing in it
-Social tools company - thats easy...
As long as Twitter would stick to minimalistic design and rule "less is better" it would work and Twitter could become worthy rival to ABC...
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> but the API, and all of Developers in the "Twitter Sphere", are such a small portion of what Twitter "does" it would be out of scope for their investors to bank on TwitterAPI to reach projections. I don't think so. The development ecosystem is (or was) a way to reinforce the platform, it is a kind of partnership where you stimulate Twitter use because you can build or take value on top of it. Many startups or busin…
We're saying the same thing here, in premise. There is some value to be gained from a development ecosystem, undeniably. The difference between what I'm saying is that the sheer magnitude of unmonetized Twitter Web users makes whatever small fish monetization increasing Twitter use with their integration look like chump change. Now, there are several big players such as Periscope, Vine, Meerkat, that could have benef…
> Are you sure of this?
Yes. For example, you can't analyze your social graph with their current API limitations. Just moving one degree in the graph hit the limit.
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#66Let me quickly summarize every thread about twitter: 1) "Twitter in the old days was great. They are ruining everything now!" 2) "Twitter has 0 revenue! How can they be worth so much? It deserves to die." "Actually, they have 0 profit " "Oops! Point still stands!" 3) "But what do all the employees even DO all day?" 4) "I stopped caring about Twitter when they closed off their API" 5) "The world needs Twitter!" "No it…
Amusingly, each of those fits in a tweet ;)
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wish there were more things like that. Perhaps not coincidentally, craigslist is not a public company.
Any idea on how much revenue they bring in? I tried a quick google search but couldn't find any recent numbers.
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#68Twitter's product is broken in more ways than I care to recount. End users and developers are constantly complaining about it - and they're the power users who see the value in it! Everybody else is "meh" about Twitter despite the potential. Add Jack in to that mix, a guy who who has a lot of passion and intelligence but is split across Square and Walt Disney and I have to say the answer is 'no', betting on him to si…
In my microcosmos I am also being followed by a lot of bots and cyborgs (those ones who have ten of thousands of followers and are following other ten of thousands). This makes me think this ecosystem is not working properly, more, because I post original content.
On the other hand, I am followed by a top VC who only follows a few people but is followed by 1/2 million and this "karma" doesn't make any noticeable effect on my twitter account.
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I'm not sure about that, but they definitely should have taken a move fast break things style approach a la Facebook. New features on Twitter seem to take forever to be decided upon and rolled out. I often wonder if their architecture is stifling them in some way. If I were Jack I'd want to set up a large opt in beta group to trial new features.
So why can't they integrate Periscope directly with Twitter? Instead of posting a Tweet, just press a button to live stream to my feed with Periscope.
That feature actually launched recently for both Android and iOS (Maybe today on iOS?).
http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/16/twitter-is-testing-a-perisc...
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Perhaps HN should enforce a minimum comment length, like at least 3 words... One word comments clearly don't add value to a discussion.
I almost agree, but I suspect it's a reference to previous discussions around Betteridge's Law, for example: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9232419 I'm sure it's come up more than once, and it's a sensible response to clickbaitesque headlines like this one.
Yes, I agree.
The best response to a clickbaitesque headline is a short answer (and No Click!). That's why I wrote "No". Everything else would just feed the trolls. But of course, it's much easier to downvote such a comment than to think about the clickbait itself.
Kind regards,