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Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

"(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments)"

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Don't interrupt the actual discussion to meta-discuss the scoring system.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Twitter has an incredibly powerful brand and appeal. How many companies can say they triggered revolutions? Yet it's puzzling how much it fails to improve its basic product, 1 year in Dorsey's comeback. On mobile, the search/explore screens are mostly irrelevant. On desktop, they could position themselves as quasi TV channels with live content update. Yes, they lost the social wars and that's fine. They won the media…

> Yet it's puzzling how much it fails to improve its basic product.

What's there to improve? As someone else said here on HN "Twitter should have been an RFC."

The only thing that's broken here is not Twitter, it's the economic system that can't just let a useful invention be, but instead forces it into a fight-or-die, conquer-the-world-or-disappear nuclear arm's race.

Facebook was just fine as a place to keep in touch with friends and invite them to events, Uber is just fine as a Taxi service, Candy Crush was just fine as a silly iPhone game...

I wonder what we'll think of it all in a century, because there's no way this insanity can go on for much longer.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly they can. The issue is that the stockholders had previously believed that this limit was much much higher. They also, to some degree, still believe that (And maybe they are right. Maybe not. It's hard to say!). So if you are the management team at twitter and your stockholders think you could be doing better you are at constant risk of getting fired.

This mismatch between expectation and reality is why so many internet companies "die". It's not that their business model failed, necessarily, it's that management, or the board, has set expectations for growth that defy reason. The company then has to embark on an ever-more-doomed set of initiatives to try to meet growth targets, which inevitably fail. Many companies could still be thriving today (e.g., Yahoo), if n…

If you push 10 companies for reason defying growth and 9 of them die but the 1 survivor grows enormously is it worth it? Maybe?

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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post #31
post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

"(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments)" Don't discuss your own votes. Don't interrupt the actual discussion to meta-discuss the scoring system.

I used parentheses that can be read in less than 1 second. Let me know if you are a HN moderator.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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post #32
post #6

Twitter has an incredibly powerful brand and appeal. How many companies can say they triggered revolutions? Yet it's puzzling how much it fails to improve its basic product, 1 year in Dorsey's comeback. On mobile, the search/explore screens are mostly irrelevant. On desktop, they could position themselves as quasi TV channels with live content update. Yes, they lost the social wars and that's fine. They won the media…

> Yet it's puzzling how much it fails to improve its basic product. What's there to improve? As someone else said here on HN "Twitter should have been an RFC." The only thing that's broken here is not Twitter, it's the economic system that can't just let a useful invention be, but instead forces it into a fight-or-die, conquer-the-world-or-disappear nuclear arm's race. Facebook was just fine as a place to keep in tou…

140 Character limit that includes url and hash tags which is finally going to get released. Look at increasing the limit later on?

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit? There are inherent limitations to any given "thing" and perhaps Twitter has found its own terminal velocity.

"Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit?" I think of craigslist when I read that. It's just a useful thing that works. Nothing else. I wish there were more things like that.

> I wish there were more things like that.

Perhaps not coincidentally, craigslist is not a public company.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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post #31
post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

"(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments)" Don't discuss your own votes. Don't interrupt the actual discussion to meta-discuss the scoring system.

> Don't discuss your own votes.

I don't think that is what OP meant, rather than please add a comment explaining why it is wrong (instead of downvoting and moving on.)

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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> And, by nearly every metric, he had achieved remarkable success. Under his tenure, the company had grown from 300 employees to around 4,100. Eurgh. I never understand how the number of employees you have can be a success metric. By that logic, becoming more efficient would be a bad thing.

It would mean something in a profitable company as growing the workforce and keeping a company profitable is a considerable challenge.

To GP's comment... I'm not sure growing the workforce is the "considerable challenge" that matters most either. blowski's point about efficiency still stands -- all other things being equal, achieving the same result with fewer employees is more laudable.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Twitter's product is broken in more ways than I care to recount. End users and developers are constantly complaining about it - and they're the power users who see the value in it! Everybody else is "meh" about Twitter despite the potential. Add Jack in to that mix, a guy who who has a lot of passion and intelligence but is split across Square and Walt Disney and I have to say the answer is 'no', betting on him to si…

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Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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post #16

>Twitter announced what it hoped would be the antidote for its user decline: “Moments” Yeah, I can't believe anyone thought that would work. It's like thinking that the recent "you can now type 10 more characters because URLs don't count" thing will save Twitter.

I've always thought that overtime, gradually, they should've expanded their character limit to something reasonable like 200-300 chars. Are they that Microsoft like tied to being backwards compatible with SMS?

I'm not sure about that, but they definitely should have taken a move fast break things style approach a la Facebook. New features on Twitter seem to take forever to be decided upon and rolled out.

I often wonder if their architecture is stifling them in some way. If I were Jack I'd want to set up a large opt in beta group to trial new features.

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