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Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by prawn »

wslh wrote: post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

You might be copping downvotes because people think your arguments that he's "not very capable" and "is bad at business execution" don't hold up?

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by FilterSweep »

wslh wrote: post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

Parent does have some validity related to their API...and how they've scorned developers - but the API, and all of Developers in the "Twitter Sphere", are such a small portion of what Twitter "does" it would be out of scope for their investors to bank on TwitterAPI to reach projections.

I don't think Dorsey is as bad as you claim, but this example does reflect an (IMO) systemic problem of treating the CEO of large companies (~N > 50) as a superhero when institutional and foundational changes would really be the hero of the story.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by wslh »

prawn wrote: post #21
wslh wrote: post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

You might be copping downvotes because people think your arguments that he's "not very capable" and "is bad at business execution" don't hold up?

Business capabilities are judged by $$$ even when chance plays a big role. There is no signal of turn around.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

#24

Post by talmand »

prawn wrote: post #21
wslh wrote: post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

You might be copping downvotes because people think your arguments that he's "not very capable" and "is bad at business execution" don't hold up?

As a third party I would be interested in hearing why others feel the arguments don't hold up. Just simply clicking the downvote button doesn't make for an interesting discussion.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by simonswords82 »

Twitter's product is broken in more ways than I care to recount. End users and developers are constantly complaining about it - and they're the power users who see the value in it! Everybody else is "meh" about Twitter despite the potential.

Add Jack in to that mix, a guy who who has a lot of passion and intelligence but is split across Square and Walt Disney and I have to say the answer is 'no', betting on him to single handedly save Twitter is a bad bet.

Twitter is doomed. I get that shareholders want to see the value they were promised but short of a miracle I don't see a resurgence. All the trendy people have already moved off of Twitter to FB, Insta or SnapChat (and I'm sure there are others I'm not cool enough to use).

This Google Trend graph tells the story in pictures: https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore#q=%2Fm%2F0b2334%2C%2...

Note that I had to leave FB out because it has ridiculous numbers that make the other values in the chart almost meaningless.

Edit: Square not Stripe

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by akud »

> what the company is best at, which is being the platform where people weigh in on live events.

This is odd to me, since from what I see, the people who are most engaged with twitter don't use it for live events at all. They use it for jokes.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

#28

Post by saalweachter »

pi-err wrote: post #6

Twitter has an incredibly powerful brand and appeal. How many companies can say they triggered revolutions? Yet it's puzzling how much it fails to improve its basic product, 1 year in Dorsey's comeback. On mobile, the search/explore screens are mostly irrelevant. On desktop, they could position themselves as quasi TV channels with live content update. Yes, they lost the social wars and that's fine. They won the media…

> How many companies can say they triggered revolutions?

United Fruit Company, British Petroleum?

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

#29

Post by rsync »

bedhead wrote: post #10

Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit? There are inherent limitations to any given "thing" and perhaps Twitter has found its own terminal velocity.

"Can't companies and products simply hit a natural limit?"

I think of craigslist when I read that. It's just a useful thing that works. Nothing else. I wish there were more things like that.

Re: Twitter Is Betting Everything on Jack Dorsey

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Post by wslh »

FilterSweep wrote: post #22
wslh wrote: post #14

(Note to Jack Dorsey fans: if you want to downvote downvote with arguments) Obviously Jack Dorsey is not very capable and is bad at business execution. There is/was a simple way to increase Twitter revenue and profits: giving small and medium companies a way to pay for entry level access to their API in the same way Google AdWords, etc work. I think there is a lot of money there but they only know about wholeselling…

Parent does have some validity related to their API...and how they've scorned developers - but the API, and all of Developers in the "Twitter Sphere", are such a small portion of what Twitter "does" it would be out of scope for their investors to bank on TwitterAPI to reach projections. I don't think Dorsey is as bad as you claim, but this example does reflect an (IMO) systemic problem of treating the CEO of large co…

> but the API, and all of Developers in the "Twitter Sphere", are such a small portion of what Twitter "does" it would be out of scope for their investors to bank on TwitterAPI to reach projections.

I don't think so. The development ecosystem is (or was) a way to reinforce the platform, it is a kind of partnership where you stimulate Twitter use because you can build or take value on top of it. Many startups or businesses in general look elsewhere for the information that is available on Twitter.

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