Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
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Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
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Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#2It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#3It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
http://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/ sheds some light into this.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#4It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
We can't talk about this in detail yet but http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/nextcloud-is-replacing... has some more information on what's upcoming. If you can understand German a very good in-depth research article is at http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehme...
Disclaimer: I am one of those folks that left ownCloud for Nextcloud.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#5It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/nextcloud-is-replacing...
>'why' is the question everybody has and I hope you understand I don't want to talk too much about that
Grow up, maybe, Jos?
This sounds to me like the usual and continuous splits inside OSS communities, but Jesus, I do miss the days when you had a detailed explanation as soon as somebody leaked the IRC logs!
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#6It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
Roughly translated from http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehme... :
Jos Poortvliet, Owncloud's former community manager and now responsible for communication at Nextcloud calls it a "new start". Karlitschek and Poortvliet give as reason for the new founding "structural problems" and some "economic decisions" of the Owncloud company, that caused great dissatisfaction. They do not want to give further details. Nextcloud's business model should be focused on long-term viability and sustainability. Apparently the Owncloud company could not offer that in a satisfactory measure.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#79 of the top 10 contributors in addition to the project founder and the lead security engineer are pushing this effort. Good foundation to fork and support users.
Let's hope this brings the transparency, openness and community awareness owncloud/nextcloud always needed.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#8It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/nextcloud-is-replacing... >'why' is the question everybody has and I hope you understand I don't want to talk too much about that Grow up, maybe, Jos? This sounds to me like the usual and continuous splits inside OSS communities, but Jesus, I do miss the days when you had a detailed explanation as soon as somebody leaked the IRC logs!
He's addressed it and said he doesn't want to talk about it.
I don't think it's Jos who needs to grow up. If you want to watch trainwrecks go read the celeb gossip mags.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#9It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
http://blog.jospoortvliet.com/2016/06/nextcloud-is-replacing... >'why' is the question everybody has and I hope you understand I don't want to talk too much about that Grow up, maybe, Jos? This sounds to me like the usual and continuous splits inside OSS communities, but Jesus, I do miss the days when you had a detailed explanation as soon as somebody leaked the IRC logs!
You don't talk negative about other people, especially if you worked with them for a long time, and especially when it's not a matter of "they hid bodies of people they killed" but mere differences in opinion about how to do business. So no, this dirty laundry should not be aired in public.
Re: Owncloud has been forked into Nextcloud
#10It would be interesting to hear a bit more background for this forking. What does Nextcloud try to achieve that was not possible within the ownCloud project? Was this a clash of personalities as one of the ownCloud founders is among those jumping the ship?
Roughly translated from http://www.golem.de/news/community-fork-und-neues-unternehme... : Jos Poortvliet, Owncloud's former community manager and now responsible for communication at Nextcloud calls it a "new start". Karlitschek and Poortvliet give as reason for the new founding "structural problems" and some "economic decisions" of the Owncloud company, that caused great dissatisfaction. They do not want to give fur…
It sounds like they didn't have a viable business model, so they're starting a new company to get rid of any ties the old had.
Maybe there's VC money coming in and this is a requirement to be able to be sold later... Who knows? :)