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Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by Maxious »

AimHere wrote: post #19
chillacy wrote: post #2

I recall a story of how the windows 95 team (or the like) was crazy dedicated to backwards compatibility, so they had a check to see if the user was running Roller Coaster Tycoon and if so, disabled virtual memory so the game would run. Though I'd like to know more details, like: * Why does blizzard need to run in the sandbox on Mac OS X? The app sandbox is opt-in (though required for App Store apps) * Can anyone set…

Okay, nitpick time. Your story about the game is surely wrong. Rollercoaster Tycoon was developed for Windows 95/98. Perhaps you meant it's a later version of Windows, or the game's spiritual predecessor, Theme Park, which ran in DOS.

This seems to mention the virtual memory but not any specific game https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20160328-00/?p=...

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by brynedwards »

AimHere wrote: post #19
chillacy wrote: post #2

I recall a story of how the windows 95 team (or the like) was crazy dedicated to backwards compatibility, so they had a check to see if the user was running Roller Coaster Tycoon and if so, disabled virtual memory so the game would run. Though I'd like to know more details, like: * Why does blizzard need to run in the sandbox on Mac OS X? The app sandbox is opt-in (though required for App Store apps) * Can anyone set…

Okay, nitpick time. Your story about the game is surely wrong. Rollercoaster Tycoon was developed for Windows 95/98. Perhaps you meant it's a later version of Windows, or the game's spiritual predecessor, Theme Park, which ran in DOS.

Probably SimCity, there's a bit about Microsoft adding a workaround for a bug in the game in this article http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000054.html

Edit: Maybe not this since it's unrelated to virtual memory but it's along the same lines, going to some lengths to keep software compatible

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by medecau »

unlinker wrote: post #15

This guy published an app that did jailbreak detection and some other stuff on the App Store, it was taken down, and has been rambling since then in a very very childish way about stuff like this: https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/738286205708738560 Truth is--he knew what was going to happen, so this looks just like another excuse to rant.

Truth is your comment is ad hominem. ;)

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by ryanl0l »

Longhanks wrote: post #16
unlinker wrote: post #15

This guy published an app that did jailbreak detection and some other stuff on the App Store, it was taken down, and has been rambling since then in a very very childish way about stuff like this: https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/738286205708738560 Truth is--he knew what was going to happen, so this looks just like another excuse to rant.

He is known in the jailbreak scene as someone who cannot stay serious - he's always involved in some kind of drama. If I recall correctly, the pangu dev team attended some of his sessions about iOS hacking and used this knowledge to create a publicly available jailbreak tool. He then started to rant about how they "stole" his technologies on twitter (see for example https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/481020166483238912…

I can't see how you could possibly describe his behavior as "childish" here. Pangu straight up stole his code and sold it.

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by Nr7 »

AimHere wrote: post #19
chillacy wrote: post #2

I recall a story of how the windows 95 team (or the like) was crazy dedicated to backwards compatibility, so they had a check to see if the user was running Roller Coaster Tycoon and if so, disabled virtual memory so the game would run. Though I'd like to know more details, like: * Why does blizzard need to run in the sandbox on Mac OS X? The app sandbox is opt-in (though required for App Store apps) * Can anyone set…

Okay, nitpick time. Your story about the game is surely wrong. Rollercoaster Tycoon was developed for Windows 95/98. Perhaps you meant it's a later version of Windows, or the game's spiritual predecessor, Theme Park, which ran in DOS.

Could've been Transport Tycoon (Deluxe) which was the previous game from the developer of RCT

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by DavideNL »

Longhanks wrote: post #16
unlinker wrote: post #15

This guy published an app that did jailbreak detection and some other stuff on the App Store, it was taken down, and has been rambling since then in a very very childish way about stuff like this: https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/738286205708738560 Truth is--he knew what was going to happen, so this looks just like another excuse to rant.

He is known in the jailbreak scene as someone who cannot stay serious - he's always involved in some kind of drama. If I recall correctly, the pangu dev team attended some of his sessions about iOS hacking and used this knowledge to create a publicly available jailbreak tool. He then started to rant about how they "stole" his technologies on twitter (see for example https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/481020166483238912…

Yep, i followed him on twitter for a few months, he's constantly trolling/behaving childish.

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by coldtea »

BakaRakuda wrote: post #25

Nobody saw this yet? https://mobile.twitter.com/gruber/status/738149554978070529 Turns out a complete non-story.

Non-story? This just confirms that Blizzard indeed got an exception.

The reason doesn't make it a "non-story" in any way.

Nobody sane expected the reason to be anything besides something like that (e.g. some evil root access plan) -- and it's still a story.

Re: Blizzard Exempt from iOS and MacOS Security Sandbox

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Post by BakaRakuda »

coldtea wrote: post #28
BakaRakuda wrote: post #25

Nobody saw this yet? https://mobile.twitter.com/gruber/status/738149554978070529 Turns out a complete non-story.

Non-story? This just confirms that Blizzard indeed got an exception. The reason doesn't make it a "non-story" in any way. Nobody sane expected the reason to be anything besides something like that (e.g. some evil root access plan) -- and it's still a story.

Yes non-story, read through tweets and links in the link I posted.

The "story" here was that Apple was being irresponsible by giving Blizzard an exception to the sandbox.

In actuality it's little more than a shim to make a buggy Blizzard updater not crash by thinking it could do something it couldn't.

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