What Urbit is

Post by Karunamon » Wed, Jun 01, 2016, 10:08 PM UTC

kefka wrote: post #60

mundo wrote: post #55

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It would demonstrate a lot about the HN community if we could get through an entire Urbit post without it devolving in to yet another debate on Curtis Yarvin's (incredibly lengthy, vague and contradictory, and entirely irrelevant) views on race.

Its the whole of collections of views he is public about. We talk a great deal of "Good Fit" and the like when working on projects with others, or working for someone. This is a case where he would work better with his own kind: racists, sexists, and bigots. Like attracts like.

Post by corndoge » Wed, Jun 01, 2016, 10:10 PM UTC

pvg wrote: post #54

zimbu668 wrote: post #44

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"As for "race," you can learn way more about someone from a minute of conversation than from a full genome sequence -- even if we knew how to decode the information in the sequence, which we don't. As for politics, there is essentially no one sane who thinks of themselves as evil or wanting to do evil. I have lots of progressive friends, and you'd be surprised how many ways we can find to see the world in the same wa…

It's the paragraph before that. "It's actually quite possible to recognize that human population genetics has a lot of impact on politics and history, and also recognize that human population genetics has nothing at all to do with your individual, personal and professional human relationships. Nor does politics." You can't really make that non-racist by adding "I have progressive friends and quite like puppies"

Post by lhnz » Wed, Jun 01, 2016, 10:12 PM UTC

cwyers wrote: post #56

lhnz wrote: post #50

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He tried to explain that opinion further: "The ability to survive as an agricultural slave is a talent." I've no idea whether Spaniards and Englishmen really did find Indians unfit for slavery but I guess the argument that is being made is that more of them might have been kept alive if they were able to provide greater economic value to their conquerors. Sick, I know. Agree that it's not an opinion fit to be voiced…

> He tried to explain that opinion further: "The ability to survive as an agricultural slave is a talent." Oh, well, that makes everything better.

Post by justadude1 » Wed, Jun 01, 2016, 10:14 PM UTC

blacksmith_tb wrote: post #59

justadude1 wrote: post #51

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I have read it and I don't think the author is an outspoken advocate of slavery. The passage most frequently cited as evidence of this charge is: Thus, Spaniards and Englishmen in the Americas in the 17th and earlier centuries, whose sense of political correctness was negligible, found that Africans tended to make good slaves and Indians did not. This broad pattern of observation is most parsimoniously explained by g…

It's a very strange interpretation, especially given that there is a strong body of historical sociology on exactly this question. I'm thinking primarily of Orlando Patterson's _Slavery and Social Death_ - which would suggest that while Native Americans could potentially escape back to their people, African slaves had a much harder time alone, which was precisely the slavers' plan.

Post by Karunamon » Wed, Jun 01, 2016, 10:15 PM UTC

kungfooguru wrote: post #53

adbge wrote: post #34

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> The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Oh, good. This again. Curtis has stated publicly, "I am not an 'outspoken advocate for slavery,' a racist, a sexist or a fascist." See: https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/why-you-should-come-to-lam...

Actually, he writes pretty clearly in this post that he is a racist. He simply claims he isn't racist because he says while whites are smarter than Blacks that doesn't make them 'superior', just having higher IQs... So yes, he is a racist, but also stupid.