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I still have no idea what it is actually trying to accomplish. Is it a decentralized storage/compute platform? Why are they calling it an OS? Why does it only reference existing technology to say it isn't that?
None of the links are working for me either.
If the blockchain is useful in those areas where [almost] no trust exists, Urbit has the potential to be useful for essentially everything else. To give a concrete example, this would be useful for any Ethereum app that doesn't want to store data on a central server (which most cannot do whether for legal, security, or ideological reasons). The idea to me is that the internet wasn't built very well to run decentraliz…
There is no such thing as a trustless app, unless you are doing basic mathematical algorithms contained within the same system. Ethereum adds no value to Bitcoin because any useful apps you want to make NEED a centralize source to provide data to it. For example, if I want to make an app that sends coins to someone when bitcoin is at a certain price, I would inherently be relying on the trusted source, that provides…
Reread my post, I said almost. Nothing in life is trustless [for instance, solar flares could effect my computer's state], but you can get close. So we agree there
> Ethereum adds no value to Bitcoin because any useful apps you want to make NEED a centralize source to provide data to it.
This is called the oracle problem --- it's a difficult problem, but not intractable. Augur doesn't use a centralized source to resolve its markets, it has groups of reporters who do that [with a whole set of incentive structures surrounding truth-as-schelling-point and relying upon bonds to cause monetary loss to people attempting to "cheat" the system. Your cost to cheat the system will almost always be more than potential profit [unless there's only 1 market in a system with a ton of volume and no other activity, which means it's basically dead anyway and there are 2 backstop mechanisms surrounding this as well]. Anyway given infinite money anything is attackable / not trustless.
Second, you're missing _a lot_ of the benefits of Ethereum. It can control funds programmatically. To run a prediction market using bitcoin you have to hold customer funds, on Ethereum you don't [this is a huge opex]. On Bitcoin, you have to process the trades, on Ethereum you don't [hello more opex!]. On bitcoin you're forced to use a multisig 3rd party or have counterparty risk to trade prediction market assets, on Ethereum you don't. You have to resolve markets yourself [or with multisig of a handful of people, because bitcoin cannot support multisigs beyond 20]. People can't create their own markets and add liquidity to them on your platform if it's on bitcoin without trusting you either. Could go on and on, but _unless_ you're referring to a sidechain of bitcoin you can't do any of that.
As far as the example here: "For example, if I want to make an app that sends coins to someone when bitcoin is at a certain price, I would inherently be relying on the trusted source, that provides the bitcoin price data." is wrong. On Etherex on ethereum I can get data for he btc-eth price and do a transaction based on the exchange rate without trusting anything in the outside world
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
Got any sources to back this up? I'd rather not believe, but if it's so...
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4bxf6f/im_curtis_yarv...
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/sjws-urge-programmi...
Its the sum of these views, writings, and his own AMA that steered me clear of his stuff. Mainly, if he treats fellow members of the community like this, I'm sure not going to have a good fit in ... wherever he works on.
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
Oh, good. This again. Curtis has stated publicly, "I am not an 'outspoken advocate for slavery,' a racist, a sexist or a fascist." See: https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/why-you-should-come-to-lam...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Got any sources to back this up? I'd rather not believe, but if it's so...
Sure do. Yarvin's AMA. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4bxf6f/im_curtis_yarv... http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/sjws-urge-programmi... Its the sum of these views, writings, and his own AMA that steered me clear of his stuff. Mainly, if he treats fellow members of the community like this, I'm sure not going to have a good fit in ... wherever he works on.
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
> The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Oh, good. This again. Curtis has stated publicly, "I am not an 'outspoken advocate for slavery,' a racist, a sexist or a fascist." See: https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/why-you-should-come-to-lam...
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4bxf6f/im_curtis_yarv...
They don't seem that antagonistic here. Do you have any evidence that supports your point?
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
> The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Oh, good. This again. Curtis has stated publicly, "I am not an 'outspoken advocate for slavery,' a racist, a sexist or a fascist." See: https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/why-you-should-come-to-lam...
I was looking into this, as I have connections to the devs via our hackerspace. After research, I steered away, and hard. 1. Newbies trying to grok the platform are mocked mercilessly. Publicly over reddit and twitter. 2. The "leader" is an avowed racist and nasty person in general. Now, ad hominems aren't "good"... but if I work on it, I get lumped into the similar group. Just no. 3. It uses "Hoon" to program, which…
2. Where [breitbart article linked doesn't really get into it beyond other people saying it]?
3. I do think Hoon is a bit too complex
4. If the company dies the project doesn't die. Curtis has been working on this for years from what I've read