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HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps
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Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps
#82Seems like an awesome tool. For all those pros who are wondering who will use this tool. Let me tell this, this is an invaluable tool to teach programming for web without scaring them with all complexities. And the learners still have a url where they can see things in near realtime.
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#83I feel as a developer I have a personal debt to Joel. So first I wish him and FC best of luck with any endeavor.
It's unclear to me which crowd this tool is useful for. I'm usually using cloud9 for the "deploy a toy now" use case. Between wix, Heroku, google apps, c9.io, github pages, jsfiddle, ngrok... which unoccupied niche is left for HyperDev?
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#84I'm a big fan of Fog Creek (having worked there for 7 years). But I'm a little stumped on who this is for. Without any persistence (Mongo, SQL, Redis, something) this is nothing more than a toy. Right now, the forums suggest setting one up via some PAAS, which obviates the whole "it's only one step" thing. Presumably persistence is on its way, as this is just a beta. Persistence aside, it's still lightweight for an e…
I think you’re underestimating the addressable market. StackOverflow has 45M unique users [1], and yet Evans Data [2] and others put the number of developers at around 20M. So there are tens of millions of people looking for help with programming issues who aren’t professionals. I think a lot of them, and professional developers with side-projects and quick scripts to write, will find utility here. The typical Git workflow best-practice is something of a one-size-fits-all at the moment, and we think it’s not a great fit in some circumstances. So this is just another option.
On persistence - each HyperDev project gets a DynamoDB. It’s definitely trickier to use than we’d like, so we’ll be getting to that, but for now here’s an example project you can remix that uses it - https://hyperdev.com/#!/project/typhoon-pine. Or there are other options like one that uses a free mlab MongoDB - https://hyperdev.com/#!/project/navy-flower that’s pretty easy to get going with.
But I think you should just try building something with it - here’s a good excuse: https://hyperdev.com/blog/developer-contest-get-back-nature/. From what I remember from Aavardk’d [3] you’re a keen photographer so it should be your thing!
1 - https://www.quantcast.com/stackoverflow.com 2 - http://www.computerworld.com/article/2483690/it-careers/indi... 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NRL7YsXjSg
Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps
#85I feel as a developer I have a personal debt to Joel. So first I wish him and FC best of luck with any endeavor. It's unclear to me which crowd this tool is useful for. I'm usually using cloud9 for the "deploy a toy now" use case. Between wix, Heroku, google apps, c9.io, github pages, jsfiddle, ngrok... which unoccupied niche is left for HyperDev?
Sounds like it would be useful for prototyping / proof of concept stuff (in other word it will end up in production).
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Worse than not making economic sense, it opens the door wide for malicious users - I'm sure some guy is already working on setting up JS-based bitcoin miners that just use up these free, no-login servers' CPU capacity, or set up malware sites, child porn hosting, you name it. The barriers - login, mainly - aren't there to annoy users.
I was looking at issues on the c9.io github yesterday and saw someone complaining that he was banned ... after running a minecraft server, slack bots and more lol.
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#87I feel as a developer I have a personal debt to Joel. So first I wish him and FC best of luck with any endeavor. It's unclear to me which crowd this tool is useful for. I'm usually using cloud9 for the "deploy a toy now" use case. Between wix, Heroku, google apps, c9.io, github pages, jsfiddle, ngrok... which unoccupied niche is left for HyperDev?
Sounds like it would be useful for prototyping / proof of concept stuff (in other word it will end up in production).
"Prototyping" is done by developers. We have many existing tools for that use case.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I found learning webpack and setting everything up takes FOREVER. That's because you are learning webpack and setting everything up. It's akin to setting out to learn java by learning maven first and downloading all your dependencies through that and then learning how to bundle your code into a war for deployment on a J2EE server. Of course that's going to take more time than just copying some jars in your classpat…
Having a "clone this site" option would be great - spin off or make copies of a read only project you want to learn from. Ah perhaps the "remix" button serves this function.
That's right remixing gives you your own copy of the project that you can then edit.
Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps
#89About as useful as their "language" Wasabi http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/01b.html.