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Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by notatoad »

aresant wrote: post #62

So what else is new. If you work at Facebook or Google you're benefiting directly from the similarly shady practices they used to grow on their way to being "pillars of tech" today. Do you remember when at LEAST 20% of Facebook's revenue came from Zynga? Like less than 5 years ago? Many speculated it was considerably higher, but Facebook never provided a full accounting (1). Or do you remember when Facebook literally…

Or in a similar vein, when YC funded the adware distribution company InstallMonetizer.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130115/17343321692/why-a...

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by thefastlane »

eloff wrote: post #93
aresant wrote: post #62

So what else is new. If you work at Facebook or Google you're benefiting directly from the similarly shady practices they used to grow on their way to being "pillars of tech" today. Do you remember when at LEAST 20% of Facebook's revenue came from Zynga? Like less than 5 years ago? Many speculated it was considerably higher, but Facebook never provided a full accounting (1). Or do you remember when Facebook literally…

Despite the examples you give, I don't think it's fair to lump Facebook and Google in with 50onRed. The former two are mostly above board, with some occasional exceptions, while the latter is completely, morally, underwater.

facebook is 'mostly above board'? you're far too kind.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by mcguire »

tropo wrote: post #230
mcguire wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one who eats meat can have a stronger ethical position than the guy who kills the chickens. If you enjoy the results, you cannot avoid responsibility for how the results were achieved.

You have a very different perspective. I think it leads you to believe that other people are all in denial, and would obviously be upset (feel shame, horror, etc.) if forced to accept the reality of chickens being killed. In other words, "meat is murder" for you. I assure you, this is not how we all feel. I look at an animal and I see food. Trips to the zoo make me hungry. The only ones I don't want on the menu are t…

That's perfectly fine (though if you don't mind, I'll ask you to stay away from my pets). Why would you think it would be?

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by notacoward »

ryanl0l wrote: post #208
notacoward wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please try to be more consistent about which of your two accounts - ryanlol vs. ryanl0l - you use for your replies here? Keeping up with one is tedious enough.

You should reconsider whatever client program you're using if it's causing issues.

It's not my client. It's you replying with one account so you can still downvote with the other. That "all's fair" attitude seems to exist in more domains than just taxes.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by tropo »

mcguire wrote: post #233
tropo wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a very different perspective. I think it leads you to believe that other people are all in denial, and would obviously be upset (feel shame, horror, etc.) if forced to accept the reality of chickens being killed. In other words, "meat is murder" for you. I assure you, this is not how we all feel. I look at an animal and I see food. Trips to the zoo make me hungry. The only ones I don't want on the menu are t…

That's perfectly fine (though if you don't mind, I'll ask you to stay away from my pets). Why would you think it would be?

Why what? Are you asking why I'd see it that way?

I think it has to do with making a sharp distinction between human and non-human. I feel that there is a strange commonality between animal rights activists and the people who enjoy torturing animals, with both sides seeing the animals as being relatively human, to love or to torture. The animals are being personified, then treated to good or evil. We don't have to personify animals. We can view them more like vegetables. Pretty much nobody sheds a tear when chopping vegetables, onions excepted. Pretty much nobody can sadistically enjoy it either. It's just food.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by danenania »

pjlegato wrote: post #227
TeMPOraL wrote: post #205

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I had an employer once who was about to cross the line, by getting a project from the gambling business. A cool software/hardware project (service interfaces for casino machines) that seemed to match my skills. I flat-out declined participation. He actually was very relieved, he was himself uncomfortable with it. The other time I threatened my employer with leaving on the spot if I ever see the shady spam-marketing t…

> Let's get on with Basic Income Won't that just cause all the amoral people in politics to begin promising to raise the basic income more than the next politician will, reducing all policymaking to a race to bribe the populace, so that they'll ignore all the other amoral things the politicians are doing?

At least they'd be bribing the populace rather than the wealthy.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by NEDM64 »

lossolo wrote: post #107

Today my mother got AD on her phone with "Android update", it was a pop-up from one of normal sites she visit. So she touched "update now" as she normally do with system messages about update... Then she confirmed, then she got 2 SMS, in one that deal was finalized. WTF? I've checked with Orange and indeed she was charged and subscription was started, 20 euro a month for some 3 shitty sms per week. They have turned t…

I've seen an ad for GTA5 for iOS and Android (obvious scam) on Facebook, and thousands of people liking, and hundreds of comments, most seemed organic, of people tagging their friends.

Copyright infringement + scam, right there on Facebook.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by rasz_pl »

lossolo wrote: post #107

Today my mother got AD on her phone with "Android update", it was a pop-up from one of normal sites she visit. So she touched "update now" as she normally do with system messages about update... Then she confirmed, then she got 2 SMS, in one that deal was finalized. WTF? I've checked with Orange and indeed she was charged and subscription was started, 20 euro a month for some 3 shitty sms per week. They have turned t…

its trivial and free to block all the subscription sms 'services' aka scams in Poland, and probably the rest of EU.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by milkywayz »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #177
erikpukinskis wrote: post #110

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What's a co-op position?

Cooperative education. In my opinion a CS program is totally incomplete without a co-op requirement. My program requirements 12 full months co-op to graduate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_education "Cooperative education (or co-operative education) is a structured method of combining classroom-based education with practical work experience. A cooperative education experience, commonly known as a "co-op",…

I finished 1 semester of CS co-op just recently. I go to RIT, not sure if co-op is very popular across the US or not but I can say it's actually a great experience and worth extending your stay in school from 4 to 5 years.

Re: The Perks Are Great, Just Don’t Ask What We Do

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Post by ryanlol »

notacoward wrote: post #234
ryanl0l wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should reconsider whatever client program you're using if it's causing issues.

It's not my client. It's you replying with one account so you can still downvote with the other. That "all's fair" attitude seems to exist in more domains than just taxes.

If you're that worried about your internet points, perhaps you should email hn@ycombinator.com and find out that I've in fact not downvoted your replies.

(In the future you might want to do that before accusing others of such)

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