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Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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No problem. You should setup a Twitter or a blog or something. But I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest this. Or even better write a book.

Ars longa, vita brevis. I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do.

> the top three things I'm trying to do

they being?

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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Thanks Alan, that looks like a pretty fantastic list of books to get engaged with. Definitely agree with this sentiment: > I should mention that reading lots of "poor books" is also part of literacy: they help the understanding and appreciation of "good books" considerably. I see parents bemoaning their children reading sort of simple formulaic series like The Hardy Boys but frankly that's how I started out and now t…

I quite agree with this. I don't think of "junk novels" as "poor" in that sense. A lot of getting fluent is just doing, so reading lots of junk fiction that is fun is generally good (I certainly did). To me a "poor" book is one that is not up to its subject and/or its intent. There are lots of great junk novels.

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Re: Alan Kay's reading list

#113

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No problem. You should setup a Twitter or a blog or something. But I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest this. Or even better write a book.

Ars longa, vita brevis. I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do.

Haha, I figured you probably weren't bored.

On some level though I think that making more people acquainted with what you are working on might be beneficial to making progress.

> I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do.

I cannot not ask what those top three things are :-). I'm pretty familiar with your work but I'm not sure what the top three things are.

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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It's a good list, but might just be a bit too androcentric with only 5 women out of the ~90 persons listed, (including anthologies.) Counting: Hannah Arendt, Maria Montessori, Mary Midgley, Sylvia Scribner and Rebecca West.

I don't know about you, but I never check the gender of the author when picking up a book. Your comment suggest that Alan Kay deliberately discarded books written by women, and I find that hard to believe.

> I never check the gender of the author when picking up a book.

That's probably true, and that's good. However, that doesn't mean that the author's gender doesn't influence the work itself. You are not deliberately opting into skewing the data yourself, but you are still consuming a biased input set.

> Your comment suggest that Alan Kay deliberately discarded books written by women, and I find that hard to believe.

I don't think that's the case. I think it's just the more value-free observation that "this set of data points is biased." It doesn't state why it is, just that it is. That might be relevant to someone who expects the list to reflect a certain distribution of perspectives.

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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Ars longa, vita brevis. I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do.

Haha, I figured you probably weren't bored. On some level though I think that making more people acquainted with what you are working on might be beneficial to making progress. > I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do. I cannot not ask what those top three things are :-). I'm pretty familiar with your work but I'm not sure what the top three things are.

One of them is quite a bit of interesting work and play with Sam Altman and his new YC Research initiatives. A recent one is: https://blog.ycombinator.com/harc

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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Hi Alan, sorry if this is a little off topic, but since we have you here I was wondering if you have any thoughts or opinions on the recently popular discussion surrounding object-oriented versus functional programming paradigms?

It is off topic here. But I'm happy to say something elsewhere.

That would be a very interesting opinion. Where could this discussion be arranged?

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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I quite agree with this. I don't think of "junk novels" as "poor" in that sense. A lot of getting fluent is just doing, so reading lots of junk fiction that is fun is generally good (I certainly did). To me a "poor" book is one that is not up to its subject and/or its intent. There are lots of great junk novels.

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There is also a lot of really important "high hanging fruit" that needs to be done (for example real education for the entire world).

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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This wasn't actually for my students, and dates back to the early 90s. A number of people at Anderson Consulting (now Accenture) asked for my "top ten" books. This is not possible for anyone who reads extensively, so I came out with that list as a bare start. I should mention that reading lots of "poor books" is also part of literacy: they help the understanding and appreciation of "good books" considerably.

Are there any particularly good books (including fiction) which you've read in the last year or two which you would recommend? (and if so, which?)

This is a reasonable question, but it is also the kind of question that led to the list we are discussing (and I'd like to respectfully avoid trying to generate another one).

Re: Alan Kay's reading list

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There have been quite a few books since that would be good for this group to look at (I will avoid the trap of mentioning any). Why don't you have a crack at it?

free to choose (friedman), guns germs and steel (diamond), fooled by randomness (taleb). essential contemporary fiction: the road or blood meridian (mccarthy). everybody should read the widely read religious texts that have been circulating for millenia.

On the last point, as Sussmann says:

"Bible, Talmud, Koran Read them whether or not you believe them! Be sure to read between the lines, and you can discover what people were actually thinking back then. Very interesting documents! Bava Metzia 59b is an interesting story!"

http://aurellem.org/thoughts/html/sussman-reading-list.html

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