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Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by LionessLover »

DigitalSea wrote: post #58
ashworth wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question: What do Atom and Visual Studio Code offer that Sublime Text doesn't? I have tried both within the last year and wasn't able to find any significant advantages (except for VS Code's excellent TypeScript experience), but they both ran slower and used more memory. Perhaps I should have used Nuclide? (Not asking about Webstorm because I've used the IntelliJ family of IDEs and understand their advantages…

To be honest I use Atom mostly for writing Markdown. I am a paid subscriber for Webstorm, but I have found that I am using it a bit less lately and have been using Visual Studio Code a lot more, partially because I use TypeScript, love the intellisense and overall the editor is super fast and stable. Atom definitely has some slowness issues they need to overcome and ironically Visual Studio Code is based on Atom, but…

> partially because I use TypeScript

Which WebStorm supports perfectly well?

More a clarification comment than a response, for those who don't know.

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by _Wintermute »

hantusk wrote: post #39
ashworth wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question: What do Atom and Visual Studio Code offer that Sublime Text doesn't? I have tried both within the last year and wasn't able to find any significant advantages (except for VS Code's excellent TypeScript experience), but they both ran slower and used more memory. Perhaps I should have used Nuclide? (Not asking about Webstorm because I've used the IntelliJ family of IDEs and understand their advantages…

I use Atom over Sublime Text solely for the Hydrogen plugin ( https://github.com/nteract/hydrogen ). That plugins are written in javascript (larger developer base) and allows more customization of Atom (more open plugin api) also yields more niche plugins.

I wasn't aware of Hydrogen. Looks like it might be enough for me to try Atom again.

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by guiambros »

DigitalSea wrote: post #22

I think ST3 really missed the boat. I used to love using Sublime Text 2 (occasionally I still do because it is fast), but I moved on when development stagnated and Jon seemingly disappeared off of the face of the planet, stopped responding to support requests and the like. There is no disputing ST is a great editor, but it has fallen behind in the face of Atom, Webstorm and Visual Studio Code (two of which are free).

> ... but I moved on when development stagnated...

ST3 dev releases[1]:

2016: 14 versions

2015: 25 versions

2014: 4 versions

2013: 40 versions

While pace really slowed down in 2014, there was at least occasional updates every few months fixing major issues.

I know people love to complain about ST's "slow development", but really don't understand where the perception comes from.

For me the experience has been the opposite: I sometimes get annoyed by updates every other week.

[1] https://www.sublimetext.com/3dev

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by stinos »

ensiferum wrote: post #59
dvirsky wrote: post #54

Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins (C, Go, Python), and I'm more productive with it although it lacks some features in the editor itself. And it doesn't feel slower even though it's written in JS. Plus it's open source. I hope the Sublime…

Does VSCode have a plugin for C++ code completion yet? There are several for ST.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2016/03/31/cc-extens...

and afaik it has been updated just last week with new features

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by dagw »

ensiferum wrote: post #59
dvirsky wrote: post #54

Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins (C, Go, Python), and I'm more productive with it although it lacks some features in the editor itself. And it doesn't feel slower even though it's written in JS. Plus it's open source. I hope the Sublime…

Does VSCode have a plugin for C++ code completion yet? There are several for ST.

They have at least two

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by gedy »

spoiler wrote: post #45
gedy wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atom does not handle large files well at all compared to ST. I like Atom, but get very serious hangs with it on large files.

How large are you talking? I had similar issues early on with Atom, but I don't have them anymore (same project). Also, it would only hang for about a second when initially opening the file, later on it would work smoothly.

Big JSON files for one, with tens of thousands of rows. ST3 can load and regex replace nicely. Atom just was unresponsive.

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by KennyCason »

mevile wrote: post #57
cleeus wrote: post #51

I've never used any of those new editors (ST, Atom, VS Code, ...). Can anyone compare them to the more classic ultraedit? Or said differently: Why would I chose ST3 over one of the classic editors?

Atom and VS Code use the same basic underlying technology and are JavaScript under the hood. With both you can actually open up a chrome like web inspector to help you write and debug plugins. These editors are Open Source and funded by companies whose main source of income is not the editor, but have money (GitHub and Microsoft). Sublime Text is an editor that brought a lot of new ideas that many editors now adopt (…

intellij++

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by tiplus »

dvirsky wrote: post #54

Maybe I'm biased but it seems like Sublime lost its huge margin in the "editor race". Occasionally I try to use Sublime, but the plugins are always lacking. For my needs, VSCode is already better with better plugins (C, Go, Python), and I'm more productive with it although it lacks some features in the editor itself. And it doesn't feel slower even though it's written in JS. Plus it's open source. I hope the Sublime…

Why does VSCode need a 'Pricacy Statement' (Help menu) which explains how Microsoft shares personal data? I get that it was written by MS, but why would I want a code editor that calls home? Or better ask does it send user/system data back to MS?

this cfg entry:

// Enable usage data and errors to be sent to Microsoft.

"telemetry.enableTelemetry": true,

Re: Sublime Text 3 marked as recommended build

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Post by glogla »

onion2k wrote: post #13
beardog wrote: post #7

Now if only I could afford it :D

I understand you're joking, but this is important. It's $70. I know that's a lot to some people, but if you're selling your time as a developer it's probably quite a lot less than 1/2 a day at your usual rate. For a tool that will save you many days a year (and increase your bottomline as much), that's really cheap. If you were a designer and needed Adobe's tools you'd be paying much every month. If you're using Subl…

In theory, and by law, you're paying to use the editor.

But Sublime Text lets you "evaluate" it as long as you want, so by buying a license, you're not actually paying for the editor, you're paying for not having UNREGISTERED in the title and for not having window pop-up once in a while.

Even though that's probably wrong from ethical perspective, that's not worh 70 USD to many people, especially when they live in a place where average wage is under 5 USD/hour like Eastern Europe or Russia, not eve talking about India or someplace like that.

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