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You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by gravypod »

beagle3 wrote: post #8
osense wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fashion?

It only confuses viola jones style haar detectors. You'd need different makeup for every detector.

Not to mention that is only for facial recognition.

If you want to look at a much better way of tracking people check out CreapyDOL [1]. It works by looking only at wifi data. As he says it "Stalking an entire city on the cheap."

Not only this, but if you want to stay in the CV realm you will also need to switch up:

  * Your stride
  * Your height
  * Width of shoulders 
  * How far or if you sway your arms while walking
All of those could be used to track an individual. It's not an absolute game, it's a numbers and percentage game.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvxD7p4Suw

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by icebraining »

gravypod wrote: post #11
beagle3 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It only confuses viola jones style haar detectors. You'd need different makeup for every detector.

Not to mention that is only for facial recognition. If you want to look at a much better way of tracking people check out CreapyDOL [1]. It works by looking only at wifi data. As he says it "Stalking an entire city on the cheap." Not only this, but if you want to stay in the CV realm you will also need to switch up: * Your stride * Your height * Width of shoulders * How far or if you sway your arms while walking All…

So, not even the scrambler suit from A Scanner Darkly would work? That's depressing.

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by wila »

rmoriz wrote: post #5

Besides this "regular" use-case there was recently a case when some former adult performer was doxxed using face recognition: http://fusion.net/story/295539/ntechlab-findface-facial-reco... Now, most of you probably don't care enough, only some are doing adult stuff. But let's imagine such a complete image/id database comes into hands of a bad regime. Most countries already collect and save biometric photos not even…

In quite a few countries upon visiting they take a photo of your face. Some also add finger prints. You cannot obscure that photo as they won't allow you to do so.

So yes this can be used against you, actually at th border it is only collected for that purpose, to be able to identify you as a possible suspect.

Adding big data in the picture does make it more scary as I don't believe it is completely reliable. If you've been tagged as a possible suspect you might find a nasty surprise upon leaving the country.

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by thr32989 »

rmoriz wrote: post #5

Besides this "regular" use-case there was recently a case when some former adult performer was doxxed using face recognition: http://fusion.net/story/295539/ntechlab-findface-facial-reco... Now, most of you probably don't care enough, only some are doing adult stuff. But let's imagine such a complete image/id database comes into hands of a bad regime. Most countries already collect and save biometric photos not even…

This technology could be also used for "good". For example it takes lot of time to manually identify Trump supporters and email their employers. Now it can be automated.

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by peteretep »

wila wrote: post #13
rmoriz wrote: post #5

Besides this "regular" use-case there was recently a case when some former adult performer was doxxed using face recognition: http://fusion.net/story/295539/ntechlab-findface-facial-reco... Now, most of you probably don't care enough, only some are doing adult stuff. But let's imagine such a complete image/id database comes into hands of a bad regime. Most countries already collect and save biometric photos not even…

In quite a few countries upon visiting they take a photo of your face. Some also add finger prints. You cannot obscure that photo as they won't allow you to do so. So yes this can be used against you, actually at th border it is only collected for that purpose, to be able to identify you as a possible suspect. Adding big data in the picture does make it more scary as I don't believe it is completely reliable. If you'…

As the only purpose? Isn't it a little bit more likely that they want to check the same person is using the same passport?

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by peteretep »

drdaeman wrote: post #9
osense wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fashion?

In some (quite a lot of!) jurisdictions there are already laws that prohibit concealing ones' face. While the laws are against masks, it won't be a big stretch (esp. for a rogue regime with a plenty of corrupt judges at hand) to apply or extend such laws for this sort of make-up as well. All in the name of public safety, of course.

Japanese style health masks

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by occamrazor »

peteretep wrote: post #16
wila wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In quite a few countries upon visiting they take a photo of your face. Some also add finger prints. You cannot obscure that photo as they won't allow you to do so. So yes this can be used against you, actually at th border it is only collected for that purpose, to be able to identify you as a possible suspect. Adding big data in the picture does make it more scary as I don't believe it is completely reliable. If you'…

As the only purpose? Isn't it a little bit more likely that they want to check the same person is using the same passport?

The passport already contains a photo to ensure that only the legitimate owner uses it.

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by Aelinsaar »

osense wrote: post #6
rmoriz wrote: post #5

Besides this "regular" use-case there was recently a case when some former adult performer was doxxed using face recognition: http://fusion.net/story/295539/ntechlab-findface-facial-reco... Now, most of you probably don't care enough, only some are doing adult stuff. But let's imagine such a complete image/id database comes into hands of a bad regime. Most countries already collect and save biometric photos not even…

> you can't change your face. You can obstruct it enough to confuse OpenCV: https://cvdazzle.com/ I wonder if this is the future of fashion?

I think the future is just going to be characterized by massive, constant, widespread destruction of video cameras in public.

Re: You can’t replace your face, says face recognition

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Post by wila »

peteretep wrote: post #16
wila wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In quite a few countries upon visiting they take a photo of your face. Some also add finger prints. You cannot obscure that photo as they won't allow you to do so. So yes this can be used against you, actually at th border it is only collected for that purpose, to be able to identify you as a possible suspect. Adding big data in the picture does make it more scary as I don't believe it is completely reliable. If you'…

As the only purpose? Isn't it a little bit more likely that they want to check the same person is using the same passport?

Well, i don't believe they take the picture for your benefit. Actually also seen that a picture is also taken on exit. So yes there might be more reasons like making sure the biometrics match with what is stored in the rfid chip on the passport. But you can bet that the data is stored and will be mined when needed.
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