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Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by renaudg »

JetSpiegel wrote: post #104
renaudg wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If providing a free of charge platform for humans to communicate, organize, build bridges, nurture their close social connections AND their loose ones especially (which used to be much more difficult, you wouldn't phone everyone daily) isn't enough for you, here are a few other things : - Open Source software: https://code.facebook.com/projects/ - Open Source, eco-friendly datacenter hardware: http://www.opencompute.…

internet.org is NOT Internet access but Facebook access. It's not the same thing.

Internet.org is an umbrella for several different projects, the one you're referring to that raises net neutrality questions is "Free Basics".

But there's also that : https://info.internet.org/en/story/connectivity-lab/

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by alecco »

rrich wrote: post #126
weinzierl wrote: post #61

> Users with a Facebook account can opt-out of the ad scheme by adjusting their settings, while non-Facebook members can opt-out through the Digital Advertising Alliance in the US, the Digital Advertising Alliance in Canada, and the European Interactive Digital Advertising Alliance in Europe. ...or by using a wide-spectrum blocker like uBlock Origin, and for the cookie warning problem there is a solution too: "EU: Pr…

I opted out long ago with my hosts file.

One of the best:

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

I also block

  127.0.0.1 connect.facebook.net
  127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
  127.0.0.1 facebook.com
  127.0.0.1 platform.twitter.com
  127.0.0.1 assets.pinterest.com
  127.0.0.1 www.pinterest.com
  127.0.0.1 gravatar.com
But some terrible web code breaks and have to uncomment selectively. (Looking at you, Rotten tomatoes)

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by _RPM »

_RPM wrote: post #130
_RPM wrote: post #117

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Facebook has multiple domains with an A record resolving to 127.0.0.1. Go ahead and look at the response headers of a www.facebook.com request.

To be more specific, this is the HTTP response header that contains _some_ domains that resolve to the local loopback device, formatted to fit nicely. content-security-policy: default-src * data: blob:;script-src *.facebook.com *.fbcdn.net *.facebook.net *.google-analytics.com *.virtualearth.net *.google.com 127.0.0.1:* *.spotilocal.com:* 'unsafe-inline' 'unsafe-eval' fbstatic-a.akamaihd.net fbcdn-static-b-a.akamaihd…

What's really fucked up, is that I am on my windows pc now, and I typed 'https://fb.scanandcleanlocal.com/' into my browser and it _worked_. It resolved to 127.0.0.1:443 and it just shows a blank page. My computer must have a virus.

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by ljk »

JTon wrote: post #107
ljk wrote: post #100

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Also use extensions like NoScript/Privacy Badger to block the background scripts

I enjoy using NoScript but I found I could not recommend it to non-techie friends, as it requires a lot of manual input to not break webpages. Is Privacy Badger more user friendly?

it _is_ more user friendly but not as powerful as NoScript. I totally feel the same way about telling non-techie friends since they just "allow all temporarily" once they see the site is broken....

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by sp332 »

drivers99 wrote: post #127
sp332 wrote: post #34

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Unless you're running a server on localhost, you'll have to wait for the connection to time out. Better to use 0.0.0.0 which is an invalid address and will fail immediately.

Wouldn't you get an immediate "connection refused" for localhost, not have to wait for a timeout?

That's true on my phone but not my laptop. I would guess that most firewalls would just drop the packets.

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by ljk »

RileyKyeden wrote: post #114
guelo wrote: post #110

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NoScript really needs a black-list mode powered by a community-curated filter similar to adblock filters.

How is a NoScript with community filters different from uBlock/AdBlock? It would be vulnerable to the same profit-driven whitelisting AdBlock does.

It would be the same i think; If NoScript pulled the same thing AdBlock Plus did there would be a new app taking its place(like how uBlock Origin did)

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by mp3geek »

sdoering wrote: post #10
eknkc wrote: post #3

Surprised they weren't doing that already. Facebook has javascript injected on a lot of sites, always assumed that they'd collect a shit ton of data whether you are a user or not. Also, all ad blockers block google analytics like tracking services but social plugins are generally opt in. I guess they should be blocked by default too.

I know a lot of AdBlocking Tools/List that do not block Google Analytics or Adobe Analytics by default. Do you know the ones that do?

See https://secure.fanboy.co.nz Enhanced Trackers and Anti-Facebook lists

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by clydethefrog »

dzek69 wrote: post #22

It did years ago :) When i didn't had account they already know my name, mail, telephone number, because some idiots gave them their mails login & passwords, allowing FB to read all contacts. I wasn't on Facebook, yet in the "hey, join FB" message they listed 6 of "people I know that are already of Facebook". So imagine how much data they got about me: 1) No account on FB 2) But FB tracked me with their cookies on al…

This also happened to me with Twitter. Had to use it for an experiment, used random data but they needed my phone number for verification. I used an old sim card I still had lying around and suddenly as suggestion all my high school friends popped up as suggestion. The only thing they needed to know was my number to figure out my entire social network because of my friends sharing their digital address book.

Re: Facebook will show ads to non-Facebook users on other websites

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Post by the_watcher »

brianobush wrote: post #109
the_watcher wrote: post #95

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Google knows more about what users intend to do based on what they search for. Facebook knows more about individual likes, activities, interests, etc. Facebook likely won't ever compete with Google's AdWords business (barring the real possibility of a new product somewhere in the future). But in display advertising, building a user profile is more valuable, as it is a much less intent based ad. It's a fact that Faceb…

I don't know, I post primarily girls hockey stuff, but myself am interested in so much more. This probably varies per user, but my behavior on google properties probably is much more telling.

It's not just about what you post. That's only a tiny variable. It's also about what you have liked, the activities you've done in apps and other sites with data-sharing agreements, and what you click on. Demographics, interest, and personal characteristic targeting is far better on Facebook than anything you can buy on Google Display. I'm a buyer of both, and the difference is staggering.
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