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All European scientific publicly funded articles to be freely accessible by 2020

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Re: All European scientific publicly funded articles to be freely accessible by 2020

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kriro wrote: post #17
Fomite wrote: post #2

"From 2020, all scientific publications on the results of publicly funded research must be freely available." is not "All European scientific articles". I've got at least three papers that wouldn't fall under that heading.

It's a matter of perspective. I'd argue most European research falls under this. If you work at a public university and are paid for it and do research during that time and publish it that should be covered. It would be pretty lame if only stuff that was explicitly funded in a research project would be covered.

Research done on unfunded projects as part of a hard money position is super-tricky, which is why for a lot of things the restriction is funded research projects.

For example, if your position is at a public university, but funded by an endowment from a private foundation, is it covered?

Re: All European scientific publicly funded articles to be freely accessible by 2020

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intrasight wrote: post #12

What does this mean in practice? Will the EU force the publishers to make them freely accessible? Will the EU only allow scientists to publish in open journals? Europe indirectly funds a lot of research. This will bleed into the workflow of scientists worldwide.

How this happens right now with NIH funding is yes, the government basically forces publishers to make things freely accessible - the paper is going in a public repository. Journals that publish lots of NIH funded stuff handle this for the author, while journals that don't tend to make it the author's problem.

And yes, if an author doesn't comply, it can be a problem for future funding.

Re: All European scientific publicly funded articles to be freely accessible by 2020

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Post by Fomite »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #14
intrasight wrote: post #12

What does this mean in practice? Will the EU force the publishers to make them freely accessible? Will the EU only allow scientists to publish in open journals? Europe indirectly funds a lot of research. This will bleed into the workflow of scientists worldwide.

I bet, in practice, this will mean some researchers will avoid public funds as it will come with overhead they do not want (publishing rules). But for most this will be a big win.

I have never, in my entire life, avoided funding that would also make my work more accessible to a broader audience. I don't know any other academics who would do so either.

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Post by Fomite »

badminton1 wrote: post #5

I can see the evil people behind the TTIP getting in the way of this. Before this goes into effect, the US will execute order 66 and take all the articles down.

This is already very similar to the requirements imposed by the largest U.S. funder of scientific research.

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Post by brodo »

Under the Horizon 2020 programme, open access publishing (green or gold) is already mandatory today for all EU/EC funded projects. Grant proposals must incorporate open access fees in order to be accepted. It's not much money for most project consortiums as the EU tends to fund big projects with budgets of ~10 million € and more as the norm (there are smaller ones, but ~2 million is really as small as it gets as far as I know). So a couple of 10K€ won't make that much of a difference. If it would become mandatory for all publicly research in the EU, the problem would be quite different. There are really small grants (50K€ and smaller) and if you have 2 publications out of that grant, you now pay 10-20% of your grant money for publishing fees.

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Post by acaloiar »

intrasight wrote: post #12

What does this mean in practice? Will the EU force the publishers to make them freely accessible? Will the EU only allow scientists to publish in open journals? Europe indirectly funds a lot of research. This will bleed into the workflow of scientists worldwide.

I can't speak for the EU, but since my work last year was NIH-funded, we made it freely available via arXiv (http://arxiv.org/). This seems to be common practice.

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Post by x0x0 »

squidfood wrote: post #18
intrasight wrote: post #12

What does this mean in practice? Will the EU force the publishers to make them freely accessible? Will the EU only allow scientists to publish in open journals? Europe indirectly funds a lot of research. This will bleed into the workflow of scientists worldwide.

Other option: publisher grants a single right to author or author's institution (but no one else) to make a copy available.

with google scholar that's good enough, no? It already matches to pdfs on academic sites.

Re: All European scientific publicly funded articles to be freely accessible by 2020

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Post by sndean »

I'm not as familiar with European journals, but if this happened in the US (more or less forced open access) it'd possibly mean that every time we want to publish it would cost researchers ~$3000.

Hopefully this (and similar) legislation comes along with a statement regarding who's supposed to cover that cost. Because some of us avoid that price tag by publishing in non-open access journals.

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