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Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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> Most of the users cost more than they earn I call bullshit. Can you spell datamining? also: native advertising.

Sure, good luck datamining a hotlinked image (or showing ads there)

Well. You could add ads to hotlinked images. They would not be clickable though

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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I've never seen Grubers blog until today... Does he only mention the sponsor at the beginning and end of each week? I don't see any other occurrence of the sponsors name.

If you Google 'DF Sponsorship' you can get all the info (&rates). I believe a weekly sponsorship is about $13k and he does $15k-20k per podcast across 3-4 ad reads.

It's 9K. I really wish you'd Google'd that yourself. I have no idea about the podcasts.

Here's the link for reference: https://daringfireball.net/feeds/sponsors/

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Searched this entire thread and no mention of DMCA or Safe Harbors. Linking to a 3rd party is good to avoid worrying about that sort of stuff. Not that I'm an advocate for illicit rehosting, but just commenting as an observer. It gets briefly touched on at the very end of the article, but self-hosting may carry with it a whole lot of extra work to avoid getting a big bullseye painted on the company. I'm sure more tha…

Wouldn't this give Reddit more control though? If the files are hosted somewhere else they have to rely on that service to handle takedowns. It means they can still show up all over Reddit and to a lot of users come across like Reddit is hosting them; speaking from the stand point of your average user, not Reddit/HN user.

I would imagine Reddit wants to have control and be able to more quickly take down things versus waiting for moderators to automod or manually remove posts.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Any modern browser visiting imgur gets H.264/WebM instead of the uncompressed gif. They introduced this 2.5 years ago. After a couple smaller gif only sites made the practice popular. https://blog.imgur.com/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/

That is indeed what I meant by "efficiently recompressed." 10 seconds of H.264 video are still a lot larger than a JPEG.

of comparable resolution maybe, but the file size is still not large for say a 640x480 video, less than a few Megabytes.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Came across an incredible photo series of their dataserver. http://photos.imgix.com/building-a-graphics-card-for-the-int...

> Apple’s operating system offers numerous advantages over other platforms when it comes to image processing, and it is also favored by many designers for the same reasons. imgix has written tools which allow us to leverage these strengths with our service, using OS X for image operations where it provides superior quality and performance. What advantages? If you're running these as headless servers, then what advant…

Crazy.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Turns out a S3 bucket in itself isn't a website.

Fairly easy to serve a static website from a S3 bucket... http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/HowDoIWebsite...

My point was supplying an S3 bucket as a service, and putting lipstick on it to make it look like a website isn't valuable in the long term, on its own.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Masters degrees, card carrying, secret-handshake knowing designer here. I remember when the notion of dark patterns was first discussed and differentiated from anti-patterns and I think this current discussion is quite ironic. It's ironic because it is hinging on a narrowly constrained definition of "user interface" design - one that has been appropriated by web/app designers in recent years. UI goes well beyond what…

Guess in what my masters degree is ;) Design of everyday things is one of my favorite books, and definitely the HCI book I enjoyed reading the most. I'm aware that you can think of many things as being an interface. I even agree that heuristically switching the result page is deceptive. But there is a difference, though it gets hard to pinpoint it. The manipulation is on another level. It is not the same type of thin…

The Psychology of Everyday Things (later retitled "The Design of Everyday Things") is indeed a great book. I call out the original title, first, to be a hipster but more to point out that his very aim was to talk about things not Human Computer Interaction. It is not a book primarily about Human Computer Interaction and your regarding it as such or at least lumping it in with HCI shows a serious misunderstanding of the larger point.

It isn't that you can think of many things as interfaces it is that many things are interfaces and interfaces were around long before they became graphical or even digital/computer-based. So, URLs themselves are definitely interfaces – they're UI's and machine interfaces as well, given their multiple roles.

For the concept of Dark Patterns, the manipulation you're talking about is, at its core, abusing convention, expectation and perception to steer people into an experience that they wouldn't choose if it were more obvious. So, essentially, dark patterns are deceptive.

What I gather you're asserting is that they must also be manipulative and get people to do something, themselves? By that bar, I think the imgur returning of pages instead of images when the convention is to return an image for a url ending in .jpg, etc. may be questionable. No URL request will ever rise to the level of nuance that a visual interface will. However, I still think this case fits. It is abusing a set of conventions and intentionally guiding a user into something they weren't expecting.

Additionally, think about the multiple use cases here. It's easy to focus on the casual browser clicking a link from Reddit but it's also about the user creating the reddit post. They are following convention, using what they think is an image link, choosing to post it, only to then unwittingly be involved in serving up that annoying as hell moving cat paw ad on top of the image they're trying to share with others. That sounds a little like a dark pattern at work to me...

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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I wish an image service existed that did some image recognition on the picture and provided you with relevant, but subtle 'Learn more about this thing' links.

Or even links sending you to the original source of the image (comics especially)

Hey, yes! If reverse image search is possible now, it should be easy to automatically give credit to original creators, connect them with audiences and bypass blogspam!

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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> I saw that multiple times here on HN now that people misuse the term. It's a pity, the original idea is something to be aware of, and diluting what dark pattern means hinders that awareness. Sorry long post TL/DR Fighting people on word definitions is frustrating and words change meaning when one aspect gets popular. I have fought this war over and over again over the following words: Troll - Everything is a troll…

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