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The setup required just to get a production-ready idiomatic `hello world` app in React is downright insane. Without the Facebook name behind it, I don't see how React could have ever made it this far. Foolish of me to keep underestimating the pains that JS developers willingly tolerate.
http://blog.getstream.io/react-redux-example-app-tutorials-p...
This genuinely made me feel ill. The author has done a tremendous service to others - clearly and patiently listing the thousands of steps required to get a basic modern web app up and running. I agree with others that it is often difficult to find all the steps for a process like this in one place. At the same time, this is completely, totally fucking insane.
I feel this way about Node and React sometimes but I'm not sure other environments are necessarily better. In a way the fact that you can do all this in a bunch of text files is pretty elegant. Is installing and configuring Apache and PHP with a bunch of modules that much easier, or does it only appear easier because of apt-get, a2enmod, etc.?
To me this epitomizes what I feel as I'm trying to explore options for different front-end frameworks. In this article I'm 30 screens down (literally 30 page down presses) and it's not even finished setting up the environment and dependencies. Sure, this is something that you only do once, so if it then leads to much better development workflow it makes sense to have a solid investment upfront, but it makes it very h…
I'm writing a tutorial right now for testing AngularJS and this is exactly what I'm running into. It's a tutorial but half of my first part is "install this, put this line in this configuration file, install this, add this one here, etc." It's easy to feel like I'm not writing a good tutorial but really that's just the current state of JS development.
Am I the only person who just doesn't get the appeal of Webpack over using something like Gulp? It just seems to me like Gulp is so much easier to use and setup.
Webpack does a lot more. Gulp is just a glorified (and cross-platform) make.
The setup required just to get a production-ready idiomatic `hello world` app in React is downright insane. Without the Facebook name behind it, I don't see how React could have ever made it this far. Foolish of me to keep underestimating the pains that JS developers willingly tolerate.
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I feel this way about Node and React sometimes but I'm not sure other environments are necessarily better. In a way the fact that you can do all this in a bunch of text files is pretty elegant. Is installing and configuring Apache and PHP with a bunch of modules that much easier, or does it only appear easier because of apt-get, a2enmod, etc.?
I'm interested about why you mentioned Node—aside from the occasional silliness of npm I find it easy and quick with minimal to no boilerplate.
This genuinely made me feel ill. The author has done a tremendous service to others - clearly and patiently listing the thousands of steps required to get a basic modern web app up and running. I agree with others that it is often difficult to find all the steps for a process like this in one place. At the same time, this is completely, totally fucking insane.
I'm an acknowledged novice but I find "modern" web development to be completely insane.
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Webpack does a lot more. Gulp is just a glorified (and cross-platform) make.
I guess I meant more from a ease of use point of view. Gulp/Grunt are easier to configure and get going.
1) You still get a config file, neat right https://github.com/mgechev/angular2-seed/blob/master/tools/c...
2) And this boilerplate https://github.com/mgechev/angular2-seed/tree/master/tools/t...
I get that it's frustrating to do a lot of setup. But that's the nature of the game. We're all standing on the shoulders of giants.
React is a pleasure compared to other ways of conceptualizing and practicing building user interfaces on the front end.