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Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Why wouldn't they frame the title as "Men and women are equally responsible for misogynistic tweets" instead of singling out women?

Because they're countering the popular perception that men are responsible for the lion's share of online mysogyny. It's the trued and true 'Everything you thought you knew about the world is wrong, click here to find out why!' style of headline. The Telegraph does have a business to run, after all. A little bit of sensationalism is good for the bottom line.

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#52
post #3

Honestly though, equating "online abuse" to some name calling on Twitter is totally disingenuous. What about harassment and rape threats and doxing and swatting?

Yes, absolutely. We should not equate name calling with "online abuse".

And yet every time I read a blog or article about "the scourge of online abuse!" they inevitably inflate their claims by including 'name calling' as abuse.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

#53
This actually mirrors what I've seen in the workplace over the last 35 years - women can be very brutal to each other (just like men). The main difference I've observed is that men tend to forgive each other and move on. Women seem more likely to hold a grudge. I'm obviously not interested in making sweeping generalizations - and this is not a scientific study.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

don't worry, females are probably responsible for half of that other stuff too.

I don't see it that way at all. I think the sort of casually calling other women slags and hoes or whatever (ie normalised internalised misogyny) is a very different ball game to the gamergate style evil shit that happens.

Why is this "evil shit" considered to be "gamergate style"?

Is it because so many anti-gamergaters engaged in it?

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

#55
I thought this was consistent with prevaling theories on how sexism works, and how abuse works more broadly?

There's a kindergarten-esque explanation of the phenomenon: humans tend to imitate each other, and we imitate more the people we're around more, and the targets of abuse tend to be around their abusers (or women in an abusive society) so they become like them.

It's not entirely accurate, but similar phenomena are known, most infamously the correlation between being abused as a child and:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_violence#Intergenerati...

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being against female promiscuity while praising or ignoring male promiscuity is definitely misogyny. Edit: Additionally, being against both in the current society is, while not necessarily misogynist in itself, contributing to a misogynistic society - there's many more people who will speak up to tell a man that the weird-ass person who told them they're bad for being promiscuous is wrong then would tell a woman the…

And how do you detect that with a bot that just skims through tweets? Nonsense.

Well, how do you know that "whore" in all these cases was used as an insult to promiscuity, rather than a generic insult (with a certain bite) as it's more generally used, where a less sexually-focused insult might be used against men?

We could, of course, just point out that this is a terrible study in general.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

#58

> When an article makes a politically correct claim: "Yeah I totally feel this is true, this one time [insert anecdote here]" > When an article makes a not-so politically correct claim: "Well it's not peer reviewed / look at the paper that's publishing it / this is the wrong definition / headline is misleading / [insert criticism not related to the claim]"

This observation sounds like a case of confirmation bias to me. Check out this thread for multiple examples of how this "not-so politically correct claim" "makes sense" (among other thoughtful anecdotes along the trajectory of the article's headline)

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post #53

This actually mirrors what I've seen in the workplace over the last 35 years - women can be very brutal to each other (just like men). The main difference I've observed is that men tend to forgive each other and move on. Women seem more likely to hold a grudge. I'm obviously not interested in making sweeping generalizations - and this is not a scientific study.

> I'm obviously not interested in making sweeping generalizations

That is not obvious to me given the antecedent observations that ultimately brought us to this claim.

Re: Study finds women are responsible for half of some online abuse on Twitter in UK

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Anecdotal hand-waving BS: Something I've noticed over the last several years are people who feel so victimized in some way that they actually begin acting like their victimizer. Gay people who anonymously act violently homophobic. Black people who paint KKK images on campus property. Weird. I'd guess it's just a very small minority of people who are like that, but online, in aggregate form, it could turn into a signi…

And then you have people like Meg Lanker-Simons
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