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Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by kristofferR »

pjc50 wrote: post #190
redthrowaway wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sli.mg is the new imgur for /r/the_donald, and other subs whose content imgur regularly censors. I haven't really seen it used "in the wild" on more mainstream subs. It does have a nice, clean and minimalistic interface, similar to what imgur used to have.

How bad are they that they're getting censored off imgur? What for, racial hatred?

It's like on Facebook - if something gets reported enough times on imgur it get's auto-censored until it maybe is manually restored by a imgur employee.

Because of that a lot of relatively benign Trump content gets censored on imgur because a lot of people find even his name to be offensive. Some even think his name is violence.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/24/emory-unive...

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by tetromino_ »

pjc50 wrote: post #191
Xiol wrote: post #181

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> Apple’s operating system offers numerous advantages over other platforms when it comes to image processing, and it is also favored by many designers for the same reasons. imgix has written tools which allow us to leverage these strengths with our service, using OS X for image operations where it provides superior quality and performance. What advantages? If you're running these as headless servers, then what advant…

Does ImageMagick have access to GPU hardware acceleration?

Of course: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/opencl.php

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by pyrophane »

baldfat wrote: post #240

> I saw that multiple times here on HN now that people misuse the term. It's a pity, the original idea is something to be aware of, and diluting what dark pattern means hinders that awareness. Sorry long post TL/DR Fighting people on word definitions is frustrating and words change meaning when one aspect gets popular. I have fought this war over and over again over the following words: Troll - Everything is a troll…

Hacker still gets me. The dilution of the term to simply mean "programmer" or perhaps more specifically "startup programmer in his 20s who crushes it" causes a little pain in my side every time.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by JamesMcMinn »

garrettgrimsley wrote: post #248
JamesMcMinn wrote: post #215

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I often get "authentic" looking "Your Android device is 63% infected! Install this software to fix it" scams on mobile when opening gifv files on imgur. To top it off, they make my phone vibrate and hitting back just reloads the page and causes another long vibration, which is infuriating. If that isn't a dark pattern, I don't know what is. It only happens when coming from reddit if I open an incognito tab in chrome…

>If that isn't a dark pattern, I don't know what is. It isn't. What you are describing is better describe as malicious advertising, or malvertising.

"A Dark Pattern is a user interface that has been carefully crafted to trick users into doing things, such as buying insurance with their purchase or signing up for recurring bills." [1]

Presenting an authentic looking UI dialogue which appears to come from the operating system, and using vibration to further impose the authenticity of a dialogue as having come from the operating system seems very much to be covered under any definition of dark pattern I can find. The aim is to make you click the ad, and they use dark patterns to do that. Simply because the ad content is "malvertising" doesn't mean it's not utilizing dark patterns.

[1] http://darkpatterns.org/

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by billmalarky »

flashman wrote: post #51
zitterbewegung wrote: post #18

Having a third party host Reddit's images gave away a bunch of control to the point that imgur has its own community based upon the site . At the time Reddit didn't have the resources to make a competitor but this seems to be a good move now that imgur is doing dark patterns.

I want to know whether Imgur's dark patterns are because the site isn't profitable, or because it isn't profitable enough . Because they've sort of cut their own throat here, and it would be interesting to know whether it was from necessity or greed.

Imgur was successfully bootstrapped and profitable enough to afford employees in a San Francisco office for 5 years. The bloat issues didn't really start popping up until after they took in $40MM of VC capital in mid 2014.

Their transition has VC written all over it.

It should also be noted that reddit has an ownership stake in imgur, so they must have really been concerned about the degrade in imgur experience to have done something like this.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/03/after-five-years-of-bootstr...

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by billmalarky »

conceit wrote: post #201
raverbashing wrote: post #169

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"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" (or until you get an investment from less ethical companies) But to be honest monetizing things like imgurl is hard. Most of the users cost more than they earn I think with adblockers becomming more common we'll have to think of better ways of coming out with feasible arrangements. Sharing bandwidth between users? JS bitcoin mining (or…

> Most of the users cost more than they earn I call bullshit. Can you spell datamining? also: native advertising.

Imgur's users are pseudo-anonymous, just like reddit and HN. Advertisers aren't really willing to pay much for that when they can target accurate user profiles like Facebook or anything that connects with Facebook.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by maxerickson »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #237
esolyt wrote: post #155

> At this time, the Reddit community can still choose to use Imgur or other sites for image hosting. The fact that they used the phrase "At this time" makes it sound like they are planning to disable external image links in the future.

I assumed they hadn't done that so as to keep the wholesale copyright infringement at arm's length from the parent company - is that still Condé Nast?

The company that owns Conde Nast, Advance Publications, still has a stake in reddit. There's a variety of other investors involved:

http://www.wired.com/2015/07/wired-conde-nast-reddit/

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by billmalarky »

mrweasel wrote: post #136
mbesto wrote: post #99

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To be fair, they could have operated a simple and effectively profitable business, and grown at an economically normal rate. But hey, I guess I wouldn't say no to $40M of a16z's money and a $200M valuation either.

>To be fair, they could have operated a simple and effectively profitable business How? I don't see a way from Imgur to monetize on sharing images directly.

That's literally what they did for years until taking a16z's money...

They did it by building a community around the non-reddit related traffic. Basically redditor's would share imgur links outside the reddit ecosystem (Facebook etc), then other people would visit imgur directly instead of going through reddit. These secondary users are monetizable.

Imgur had to eat the costs of supporting reddit's hotlinking (though not all reddit posts are hotlinked) but that was more or less imgur's "marketing budget."

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by taneq »

beedogs wrote: post #95
beambot wrote: post #80

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Because they probably aren't charities, and can't afford to donat e Free resources for your perpetual enjoyment?

Then we're back to my initial point: they never should have started as one.

The problem is that these sites start out as a small, useful service and then some VC with dollar signs in their eyes throws a few million dollars at them. The clothes make the primate, and suddenly what was three guys in a back room living on instant noodles feels obliged to "act like the million-dollar company that they are."
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