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Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by pjc50 »

Xiol wrote: post #181
HomebrewCC wrote: post #171

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Came across an incredible photo series of their dataserver. http://photos.imgix.com/building-a-graphics-card-for-the-int...

> Apple’s operating system offers numerous advantages over other platforms when it comes to image processing, and it is also favored by many designers for the same reasons. imgix has written tools which allow us to leverage these strengths with our service, using OS X for image operations where it provides superior quality and performance. What advantages? If you're running these as headless servers, then what advant…

Does ImageMagick have access to GPU hardware acceleration?

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by pjc50 »

vonklaus wrote: post #173
easytiger wrote: post #145

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Massively cheaper at scale. Do the basic math.

can you explain the math? I honestly don't have a working knoweldge of the inputs, but let's say i wanted the equivalent of ec2? How would I go about setting it up and the costs? If I wanted to serve a few million english speaking people my web application, how coud I calculate the price? Do I literally buy my own hardware, or I rent hardware at a dedicated rate? These are real questions btw, not rhetoric, it's hard…

The cost difference depends on how much your administration costs go up because you need to do things yourself, rather than through the AWS API. That's why it's hard to calculate.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by lmm »

onli wrote: post #159
finnn wrote: post #31

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"direct" links to an image uploaded sometimes/usually redirect to imgur page, with lots of ads and shitty content, obnoxious, animated overlays that block out part of the image on mobile, etc

None of that is a dark pattern. A dark pattern is an UI design that motivates users to use the program/site in a way profitable to the site, but contrary to users' interest. To trick people, see http://darkpatterns.org/ . Redirecting to the whole page instead of the link is just a hotlink protection (as debatable as that is for an image hoster). Animated overlays in mobile is just shitty advertising and UX. But no da…

Having links that used to be hotlinks no longer be hotlinks is a dark pattern; also URLs that look like hotlinks (ending in .jpg or similar) but aren't. I'd argue that serving ads sometimes but not always is a dark pattern (particularly if they use cookies or similar to never serve ads to the original uploader).

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by Shivetya »

onli wrote: post #159
finnn wrote: post #31

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"direct" links to an image uploaded sometimes/usually redirect to imgur page, with lots of ads and shitty content, obnoxious, animated overlays that block out part of the image on mobile, etc

None of that is a dark pattern. A dark pattern is an UI design that motivates users to use the program/site in a way profitable to the site, but contrary to users' interest. To trick people, see http://darkpatterns.org/ . Redirecting to the whole page instead of the link is just a hotlink protection (as debatable as that is for an image hoster). Animated overlays in mobile is just shitty advertising and UX. But no da…

using reddit on mobile when viewing imgur content was horribly painful with their app spam covering the top

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by Eerie »

beedogs wrote: post #63
cloudwalking wrote: post #48

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To be fair, bandwidth isn't free. Imgur can't serve hotlinked content for free, forever.

Then they should never have started. Why does every 'free' service on the Internet inevitably devolve into an ad-laden, tracker-enabled shitfest?

Counter-argument: Wikipedia.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by lmm »

bubuga wrote: post #137
meerita wrote: post #117

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+1 to this. People should stop being soften with unrealistic business that uses the ad hororem tactic. Imgur can explore dozens of models.

Shame on imgur for providing a service that was sought-after by everyone, and provide it for free by serving ads. While we're at it, let's demand the end of free TV, free email providers, free forums, and even youtube.

> While we're at it, let's demand the end of free TV, free email providers, free forums, and even youtube.

If you have a sustainable business model for such a thing, knock yourself out.

If you're just making it free for a couple of years to suck people in before you ratchet up the (not necessarily monetary) cost then yeah, we can do without that.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #96
beambot wrote: post #80

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Because they probably aren't charities, and can't afford to donat e Free resources for your perpetual enjoyment?

> Because they probably aren't charities, and can't afford to donat e Free resources for your perpetual enjoyment? Then why did they start a free service to begin with, if they knew from the start it couldn't last? Right, to trick people into becoming dependent on the free service so they'll be reluctant to leave once the shady, UX-degrading monetization starts. You'll forgive me if I'm not sympathetic to that busine…

They still provide a 'free to the user at point of use' service. The service they provide doesn't include hotlinking by other site hosts, that's been normal since about 2000 IIRC.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by Eerie »

static_noise wrote: post #19
kinkdr wrote: post #3

Bad news for Imgur...

Bad news for the current shareholders of imgur. All we want is an easy and reliable image hoster. You upload an image, they host it, you can link it, fin. Perfect plan! Except for the plot hole of not generating any money this way. That's where the suits creep in. First they finance you to grow and grow quickly you must. Imgur did it. Then you experiment with some methods of generating ad views or other revenue. Peop…

>If you listen carefully in the storm of excitement you can hear a faint voice who still remebers the core of the business: Provide the service and don't fuck with the customer.

The people looking at images for free are NOT THE CUSTOMER.

Hint: the customer pays for service.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by unlinker »

pjc50 wrote: post #190
redthrowaway wrote: post #163

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sli.mg is the new imgur for /r/the_donald, and other subs whose content imgur regularly censors. I haven't really seen it used "in the wild" on more mainstream subs. It does have a nice, clean and minimalistic interface, similar to what imgur used to have.

How bad are they that they're getting censored off imgur? What for, racial hatred?

imgur CEO: https://i.imgur.com/D2j9SlH.jpg

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by tripzilch »

beedogs wrote: post #131
Dr_tldr wrote: post #119

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I imagine you in a grocery store somewhere, railing against free samples. "You never should've given me a piece of sausage if you were going to start charging for them."

That is possibly the worst analogy I've ever read on HN.

Only if you speak Dutch.
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