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Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by malux85 »

Yes, currently approx 80 servers, fully automated, they mostly manage themselves.

The only involvement I have is the weekly security patches, I review the upgrade list and then confirm it myself before it is deployed. This way I know if any services will automatically restart, which can have some implications, this is rare though

Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by sheraz »

Yes, as a solo-preneur or on a small team I've always managed or shared the responsibility. It can be fun, but it is amazing how much time devops takes away from product delivery. I can spend hours getting logging setup, or figuring out Azure resource group template files...

Thats why I've been gravitating to Openshift/Heroku/Dokku style push to deploy. And for the things that don't deploy nicely there I can just spin up a docker-compose.yml file and deploy that way.

I'm only a few months into this new workflow, and it is paying off. New ideas and projects are easy provisioned and even bootstrapped with a few commands. Sure I spend more in compute resources, but I'm glad to have my time back.

Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by Piskvorrr »

akulbe wrote: post #10

One of the things I wonder, in reading the comments... I wonder if there would be a viable model for someone to manage the devs servers for them. I'd love to do this, but I wonder what a good pricepoint would be? (so that it's beneficial to both parties)

Price is not the point. Trust is. "Let there be a race to the bottom for the root holder" is a terrible idea.

Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by combatentropy »

No, I don't handle the whole server, but I think I do more than many. I write all of the HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and SQL, including the DDL. Further, I must customize all of the config files for Apache, PHP, and PostgreSQL from stock.

There are other teams that handle: installation and upkeep of the Linux OS, back-ups, virtual host, physical host, and of course, the network.

I work at a large company whose official standards are Microsoft SQL, Microsoft IIS, and even Microsoft Team Foundation Version Control. I get away with using an open-source stack because it was established long ago, it supports several important web applications, and my stuff is down much less often than other teams' stuff, keeping me out of sight, out of mind, most of the time.

Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by Kpourdeilami »

Yes. I manage the servers for a small startup I'm working on, we sell our software to the enterprise and have to do a custom deployment for each one of them which is very time consuming. I'm considering installing cloud foundry and doing all the deployment through that

Re: Ask HN: Do you (developers) manage your own servers?

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Post by jjoe »

I think I can answer this question partially from a slightly different stand point.

We host (the fully managed kind) several clients' projects (small and medium). It isn't atypical to have some clients hire us for server "management" as insurance. Meaning we only dive in when something awry happens to their stack and they need that jack-of-all-trade tech who can pinpoint the culprit quickly. ~$30/mo as insurance is peanuts compared to potential revenue gaps.

Others want a turnkey solution where we document the details of their stack and we manage the ops part in coordination with the dev. I think this is where the most value is captured by our clients.

There are other interesting outlier cases but it's likely OT :)

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