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Ask HN: Why do browsers still support pop up dialogs and other bad behavior?

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Re: Ask HN: Why do browsers still support pop up dialogs and other bad behavior?

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Why only web? Modal dialogs should be forbidden everywhere.

I agree, but I can't really articulate why. Does anyone have a good list of reasons? I'd love to eliminate modal dialogs in the application we're building.

Very few events really deserve to grab users attention in such a brutal way.

In fact, I cannot name a single one. Open/save file dialogue? Emacs minibuffers are light years ahead of the current Windows crap.

Asking for credentials? Same thing, only grey out the controls that directly depend on credentials and use something like emacs minibuffer for entry, not a new window on top of the rest of the form.

And, while I'm still on it - don't EVER grey out anything without an explanation. I want to be able to hover over a greyed out control and see a detailed explanation immediately. Not doing this is rude.

If a UI designer cannot build a seamless handling of all the exceptional cases into a flow, he'd better move on to a simpler job (I don't know - programming, sweeping streets, packing groceries, whatever) and let the professionals do the work instead.

Also, most (if not all) frameworks implement modal dialogues in a very ugly way. For example, in Visual Studio it is a very often case when you may want to copy and paste something from some other editor window into a modal dialogue. But you cannot - it's all locked! Such things are extremely annoying and totally unacceptable.

Re: Ask HN: Why do browsers still support pop up dialogs and other bad behavior?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Preventing the bad things may easily be more valuable to users than keeping/enabling the good things made possibly by that tech.

Most browsers now let you stop alerts from a website, thus avoiding the `while (true) { alert(…); }` variants.

OK, how does a user stop an alert? Pick a browser and explain.

Re: Ask HN: Why do browsers still support pop up dialogs and other bad behavior?

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most browsers now let you stop alerts from a website, thus avoiding the `while (true) { alert(…); }` variants.

OK, how does a user stop an alert? Pick a browser and explain.

Chrome gives you a checkbox on the second alert on the same website to prevent any future one. You can’t avoid the first two but you can avoid all the next ones.
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