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Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk.

Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the comic relief was Emo-Vader, but the comic relief shouldn't be the best part of the movie, and I'm not even sure if he was meant to be funny.

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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Acquiring and trashing companies is seriously annoying. Disney did this to about a half dozen game companies. Google is doing it to about a half dozen robotics companies. In both cases, the acquisitions were initially seen as positive. In both cases, the parent company had no clue what to do with what they bought. I have a friend who works at a company recently acquired by Microsoft, a company whose product was not M…

Disney: this isn't surprising. I don't think people realize how bureaucratically corporate Disney is, almost a parody at the level of "Brazil". They are a good employer though if one finds a happy place there with excellent benefits. QNX: a lovely embedded and even service OS. I used it for encryption and stream management in a game-cartridge-over cable-TV headend. They also included a bag of chocolate chip cookies i…

> game-cartridge-over cable-TV headend

PlayCable or Sega Channel? :)

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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The interactive division has burned through billions and billions of dollars since it was founded in the late 90s. It's not a big surprise that they would eventually go with a strategy of 'figure out what you're bad at, and stop doing that.' I was there from 2006 to 2015 and the layoffs were constant. Their IP is valuable but they can't execute efficiently.

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk. Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the com…

Sorry, unless you're an angsty teen, you weren't meant to relate to emo-vader, er, Kylo Ren. You were meant to relate to Han Solo. But you'd only relate if you're a parent. If not, then I guess there's always Traitor-guy. Yes the new episode is derivative. That's because it is how epics are told. It will diverge on the next two episodes from the original trilogy, unless Disney gets scared... that would be a huge disappointment...

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk. Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the com…

I was very confused by the good reviews too, it was literally the exact same story as A New Hope.

I don't hold much hope for the next films.

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk. Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the com…

Sorry, unless you're an angsty teen, you weren't meant to relate to emo-vader, er, Kylo Ren. You were meant to relate to Han Solo. But you'd only relate if you're a parent. If not, then I guess there's always Traitor-guy. Yes the new episode is derivative. That's because it is how epics are told. It will diverge on the next two episodes from the original trilogy, unless Disney gets scared... that would be a huge disa…

"Yes the new episode is derivative. That's because it is how epics are told"

What a load of bull. It is how bad sequels are told, "more of the same".

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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And there you have Ron Gilbert asking Disney to sell him Monkey Island IP back, to proceed with a sequel:

>Dear @Disney, now that you're not making games, please sell me my Monkey Island and Mansion Mansion IP. I'll pay real actual money for them.

src: https://twitter.com/grumpygamer/status/734843964709175297

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk. Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the com…

I was very confused by the good reviews too, it was literally the exact same story as A New Hope. I don't hold much hope for the next films.

Not exactly the same story. It wasn't the plans for Death Star mk.III that were hidden in the cute robot this time.

To be fair, my wife liked it because the protagonist action hero was a girl, which is original in the genre I guess.

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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> One of the most common refrains among ex-Disney staffers was that Disney had a strong aversion to risk. Now why does that not surprise me. Disney stopped making art somewhere in the 1940's (fantasia) and started shipping product. I didn't share people's relief that the force awakens at least didn't suck like the prequels. The writing was so derivative as to almost make it a remake. Instead of Jar Jar Binks, the com…

Sorry, unless you're an angsty teen, you weren't meant to relate to emo-vader, er, Kylo Ren. You were meant to relate to Han Solo. But you'd only relate if you're a parent. If not, then I guess there's always Traitor-guy. Yes the new episode is derivative. That's because it is how epics are told. It will diverge on the next two episodes from the original trilogy, unless Disney gets scared... that would be a huge disa…

> You were meant to relate to Han Solo

Funny coincidence: the other day my youngest stabbed me with her light saber

edit: spoiler alert. If you don't want to read spoilers, don't read the sentence above.

Re: Disney stops making video games in house – insiders reveal what went wrong

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Acquiring and trashing companies is seriously annoying. Disney did this to about a half dozen game companies. Google is doing it to about a half dozen robotics companies. In both cases, the acquisitions were initially seen as positive. In both cases, the parent company had no clue what to do with what they bought. I have a friend who works at a company recently acquired by Microsoft, a company whose product was not M…

I have been through 3 acquisitions.

They always tell you that nothing will change and this isn't really a lie exactly, as the person who says it genuinely believes it. But in a year's time that person has moved on, been promoted, busy with another acquisition, whatever, and now you report to an established and powerful manager in the old company, who doesn't see why you are special or should be treated differently than his or her existing staff. In fact they probably actively resent you; the company buying you at all they take as a signal that existing staff weren't "good enough". At that point, you are screwed.

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