N.F.L. Tried to Influence New Concussion Research, Congressional Study Finds

Post by ams6110 » Tue, May 24, 2016, 4:08 AM UTC

cmsmith wrote: post #25

dluan wrote: post #11

In 200 years, when we look back on how science was funded, it will seem backwards and poorly designed. Big money has infiltrated politics, media & journalism, and of course science, but for some reason the public regards scientific research as still somewhat authentic and immune to corruption. This is far from the truth, especially in the U.S., there is hardly any authentic science left. Even those well intentioned r…

>there is hardly any authentic science left I'm sorry, but what? You list a half dozen of the hottest-button research areas, but those represent (with the exception of pharma) probably less than 2-3% of non-proprietary research. The rest of the iceberg is just normal scientists working on hard problems that aren't going to make anyone rich, and scraping by on whatever money they can find. And keeping the 'science=cor…

Post by rcarrigan87 » Tue, May 24, 2016, 11:36 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #60

rcarrigan87 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

College football is much worse than the NFL. Players get paid nothing and still burden the same risks mostly. The idea that players are "getting an education" simply just isn't true when you consider some of the majors these guys are enrolled in. We need a minor league where players can make money. College football is insanely profitable.

I guess you call a 5 or 6 figure per-year free education, room and board, use of multimillion dollar facilites and training expertise, getting "paid nothing." Minor league players don't make a lot of money. Sometimes they have to pay to play. They get chewed up and spit out broke for the most part.

Post by mindcrime » Tue, May 24, 2016, 2:22 PM UTC

wiseleo wrote: post #47

m0llusk wrote: post #45

This sport will be dead in a generation or two. Parents don't want their kids doing something that demonstrably causes brain damage. Without a full cohort of kids involved the level of competition will starve off interest in the sport.

There will still be plenty of broke parents who will want to give their children that one shot at stardom. Take a look at backgrounds of fighters in boxing and MMA. These sports are explicitly about hurting the other person and people still volunteer to participate.

Post by samfisher83 » Tue, May 24, 2016, 4:37 PM UTC

snarfy wrote: post #64

With 80% of basic cable bills going to pay for ESPN, NFL as a non-profit organization, and all of tax breaks and stadiums paid for with taxes, it is absolutely disgusting the level of subsidizes going into football. They'll cancel band class and shop class, but the high school football team will still get new uniforms. There are so many better things the money and energy could be used for, things that actually improv…

Post by ghgfhgfhn » Wed, May 25, 2016, 3:42 PM UTC

woodman wrote: post #68

ghgfhgfhn wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if the funded research is bad then it won't survive for long" that is not necessarily true.

Ok, I can be more explicit: If the funded research is bad -- and it is an area of interest (political, social, industrial, etc) -- then it won't survive for long. So you are correct, if Philip Morris funded bad research relating to the mating habits of fruit flies in a zero gravity environment - it is unlikely to be challenged in a timely manner... but as nobody cares, it doesn't matter.