Mahalo's new spam is worse than old • Hacker News Board

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by jacquesm » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 6:51 PM UTC

dschobel wrote: post #4

jacquesm wrote: post #2

Can we please stop giving Mahalo and Jason Calacanis more airtime than they deserve ? Every post like this just fuels the fire and creates more drama around the theme and in the end will benefit the spammer. There is no such thing as 'bad publicity'.

Companies like Google care about and have responded to populist uprisings like this in the past (especially as it relates to search quality). I imagine that's the actual goal here.

If google cared they could switch him off in 2 seconds flat.

And if they're not aware by now they're asleep at the switch.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by stanleydrew » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 6:52 PM UTC

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OK I'll bite. I didn't vote you down, but I'd guess that you got voted down because you didn't add anything to the conversation. And it sounded a little sarcastic maybe to say "Thank you for your important research." Write something interesting and people will vote you up.

Oh, and you can't vote down until your account reaches a certain points threshold. I think it's 200 right now.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by NathanKP » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 6:59 PM UTC

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How to succeed on Hacker News:

1) Post a quality, well thought out comment on the subject at hand. "Thank you for you important research!" sounds like something a spam bot would post. Also be sure to watch your spelling. That should have been "your" not "you".

2) Never complain about receiving downvotes. That just results in more downvotes for you. Instead look at your comment, think about why people may have downvoted it, and then adjust your commenting pattern to better fit what the rest of us want to see on the site.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 6:59 PM UTC

stanleydrew wrote: post #12

[deleted] wrote: post #9

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OK I'll bite. I didn't vote you down, but I'd guess that you got voted down because you didn't add anything to the conversation. And it sounded a little sarcastic maybe to say "Thank you for your important research." Write something interesting and people will vote you up. Oh, and you can't vote down until your account reaches a certain points threshold. I think it's 200 right now.

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Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by whughes » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:03 PM UTC

It's come to the point where I actively avoid SEO-optimized sites on Google. If I see my search terms in the URL ("how-to-become-a-travel-agent") of a result, I'll just skip over it. Even moreso when there is generic, cut-and-paste content in the description. SEO may help you rank, but you won't get any clicks from me until I've run out of options.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:03 PM UTC

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Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by stanleydrew » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:05 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #14

stanleydrew wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK I'll bite. I didn't vote you down, but I'd guess that you got voted down because you didn't add anything to the conversation. And it sounded a little sarcastic maybe to say "Thank you for your important research." Write something interesting and people will vote you up. Oh, and you can't vote down until your account reaches a certain points threshold. I think it's 200 right now.

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My personal opinion is that the "stop posting Mahalo stories" comments aren't any better than yours, but apparently other people here feel differently. That's just the way it is.

If you feel that it's an important conversation though, then there are several things you can (and should) do rather than just post "Thanks." (1) Vote up the top-level HN post so that more people will read it. (2) Respond to comments complaining about seeing this conversation repeatedly on HN with your analysis of why you feel it's important. Then you're adding something useful.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:07 PM UTC

NathanKP wrote: post #13

[deleted] wrote: post #9

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How to succeed on Hacker News: 1) Post a quality, well thought out comment on the subject at hand. "Thank you for you important research!" sounds like something a spam bot would post. Also be sure to watch your spelling. That should have been "your" not "you". 2) Never complain about receiving downvotes. That just results in more downvotes for you. Instead look at your comment, think about why people may have downvot…

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Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by ROFISH » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:08 PM UTC

whughes wrote: post #15

It's come to the point where I actively avoid SEO-optimized sites on Google. If I see my search terms in the URL ("how-to-become-a-travel-agent") of a result, I'll just skip over it. Even moreso when there is generic, cut-and-paste content in the description. SEO may help you rank, but you won't get any clicks from me until I've run out of options.

Alas, the Law of Facebook Login states that people will click anything on Google because they blindly trust Google.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Post by NathanKP » Mon, Mar 08, 2010, 7:10 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #18

NathanKP wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How to succeed on Hacker News: 1) Post a quality, well thought out comment on the subject at hand. "Thank you for you important research!" sounds like something a spam bot would post. Also be sure to watch your spelling. That should have been "your" not "you". 2) Never complain about receiving downvotes. That just results in more downvotes for you. Instead look at your comment, think about why people may have downvot…

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A downvote is hardly punishment, it is just a community measure of the worth of a comment. From that point of view it is a learning experience, as you learn what is valuable to other people and what is not at all valuable.

If you can't handle correction, or the opinions of others, then Hacker News isn't for you. If you want to improve, learn more, and become a sharper, more attuned, internet citizen then this is the place to hone your skills.