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TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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They boast of all the knives and guns they've confiscated. I wonder though, whether we'd not be more secure if everyone carried guns on board. A hijacker wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there might also be some bloody air rage incidents as well. But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing, or at least the flight attendants....

Maybe this is the movies I've watched, but isn't firing a gun structurally dangerous to the airplane?

Considering one plane flew and successfully landed with half the top missing, I think movies might exaggerate the risk a bit. Shocking, I know...

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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has the TSA stopped a single credible plot since it started doing all this theatre?

They boast of all the knives and guns they've confiscated. I wonder though, whether we'd not be more secure if everyone carried guns on board. A hijacker wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there might also be some bloody air rage incidents as well. But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing, or at least the flight attendants....

Oh, a shoot out by multiple panicked passengers on a packed, pressurised plane. Sure, real safe.

Not to mention it only takes one dimwit to not store his gun safely and accidentally fire it and someone (or everyone) dies.

I've never understood this argument that if everyone has guns then everyone is safer.

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

has the TSA stopped a single credible plot since it started doing all this theatre?

They boast of all the knives and guns they've confiscated. I wonder though, whether we'd not be more secure if everyone carried guns on board. A hijacker wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there might also be some bloody air rage incidents as well. But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing, or at least the flight attendants....

>But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing

I think it's more likely someone would start shooting the passenger next to them for "taking too much space."

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They boast of all the knives and guns they've confiscated. I wonder though, whether we'd not be more secure if everyone carried guns on board. A hijacker wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there might also be some bloody air rage incidents as well. But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing, or at least the flight attendants....

Maybe this is the movies I've watched, but isn't firing a gun structurally dangerous to the airplane?

Not structurally, but you might hit something important.

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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The airport security in most of the American airports I've seen in the last few years is just a complete shambles in terms of efficiency. It takes forever in comparison to most of the busy European airports I've been through. And I doubt the security is any better. For example, London Gatwick has a really fast system where they have a set of packing bays before you get to the scanners/pat downs. This massively reduces delays caused by someone in the queue ahead of you faffing around putting their stuff into trays. It's like no-one is even bothering to think about that kind of stuff in American airports. Or maybe it's just for international travellers?

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

has the TSA stopped a single credible plot since it started doing all this theatre?

They boast of all the knives and guns they've confiscated. I wonder though, whether we'd not be more secure if everyone carried guns on board. A hijacker wouldn't stand a chance. Of course, there might also be some bloody air rage incidents as well. But at the same time, maybe people would act more civil if everyone around them is packing, or at least the flight attendants....

Yes, the obvious takeaway from all those knives and guns? For decades folks have been bringing all that stuff on airplanes and there never was a 9-11. Never was an inflight shooting as far as I know.

By reporting this stuff they're actually making the case of how totally useless they are -- and how pointless and misguided the "find the weapon" school of security theater is.

Re: TSA's Head of Security 'Removed' from Office

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Let's close down the TSA instead. Use intelligent profiling and random searches instead of universal scanning. Let anyone go to the gates, not just ticket holders. Allow liquids, yogurt containers, etc. Allow knives. Allow people to "congregate" near the front lavatory. Try it for one year and I can almost guarantee, flights will be every bit as secure. Security theatre is not security.

Can we also bring water bottles ? Water bottles do NOT explode, even by throwing them really hard on the ground, I'm pretty positive about that.

You forgot to add dry ice. Then they explode when they hit the ground.
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