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How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by GranPC »

riscy wrote: post #16
jaytaylor wrote: post #13

Does anyone know of a tool or even sequence of actual commands to disable the Intel ME AMT functionality? Did I miss it in the slides? I see explanations and low-level temporary/soft-disablement references, but nothing immediately actionable.

There is no prescribed way to disable it, and it looks like the slides only provide a glimpse of the workarounds/hacks needed to do so. I imagine there's a lot we're missing from this presentation, though, because it looks like there was a demo.

The demo is also available in the repository. https://github.com/ptresearch/me-disablement/blob/master/Int...

Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by redcap »

yoo1I wrote: post #28
mashlol wrote: post #2

The PDF won't open for me on a Nexus 5, doesn't show thru githubs mobile site either. Edit: It worked when I requested the desktop version of github though.

Sigh ... chrashes on Chromium on Linux as well. maybe ME is detecting it and wants to prevent us from knowing about it?!?

Thrashes a bit in Chrome on Windows for me.

Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by pjlegato »

setra wrote: post #5

Just more evidence that modern CPU designs need to die, and that a libre alternative is required.

The problem to be solved here is not just software. How do you beat the economies of scale that standard designs have achieved?

For most applications, the end user gets vastly more computing power per dollar spent when they buy an off the shelf design that's in large scale mass production.

You could port BSD or Linux to your new architecture for a reasonable amount of money (though that's already an uphill battle selling that to a consumer). How are you going to even come close to the unit economies of scale that Intel and other large established players enjoy?

Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] »

pjlegato wrote: post #33
setra wrote: post #5

Just more evidence that modern CPU designs need to die, and that a libre alternative is required.

The problem to be solved here is not just software. How do you beat the economies of scale that standard designs have achieved? For most applications, the end user gets vastly more computing power per dollar spent when they buy an off the shelf design that's in large scale mass production. You could port BSD or Linux to your new architecture for a reasonable amount of money (though that's already an uphill battle sel…

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Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by chongli »

pjlegato wrote: post #33
setra wrote: post #5

Just more evidence that modern CPU designs need to die, and that a libre alternative is required.

The problem to be solved here is not just software. How do you beat the economies of scale that standard designs have achieved? For most applications, the end user gets vastly more computing power per dollar spent when they buy an off the shelf design that's in large scale mass production. You could port BSD or Linux to your new architecture for a reasonable amount of money (though that's already an uphill battle sel…

The advantage Intel has built up is a tenuous one. They've had a lead in building up fabrication facilities for each new node. When we reach the final node - 5nm? whatever it is - the economies of scale will shift towards generic fabs. This will open the door to open designs such as RISC-V [0]. The future is looking bright for those who love freedom!

[0] http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/design/the-death-of-...

Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by gcb0 »

pjlegato wrote: post #33
setra wrote: post #5

Just more evidence that modern CPU designs need to die, and that a libre alternative is required.

The problem to be solved here is not just software. How do you beat the economies of scale that standard designs have achieved? For most applications, the end user gets vastly more computing power per dollar spent when they buy an off the shelf design that's in large scale mass production. You could port BSD or Linux to your new architecture for a reasonable amount of money (though that's already an uphill battle sel…

do you need 40ghz with 32 cores or 2 cores at 1.5ghz and the garantee of full control?

for personal computing, I'd take the later

Re: How to become the sole owner of your PC [pdf]

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Post by dingo_bat »

incompatible wrote: post #7

How about firewalling whatever ports the Intel code may use? If it can't communicate with the Internet, presumably it's not likely to do any harm.

Note that the firewall would need to exist outside the suspect system. And make sure your firewall device is not itself affecting by this.
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