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Re: Pastejacking

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Post by ollyfg »

tedmiston wrote: post #26
saganus wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although what you propose sound plausible, the only instance of this I've seen is when adding copyright notices when you save the link to am image, or when they add this warning about not stealing the work and adding proper citation. The problem I see with this scenario is that not everyone is copy-pasting from the browser into a terminal. I for example copy things to my VM's text editor first, then run the command.…

The worst are the sites that add additional text when you copy eg something like a quote. Try to copy one from this site for example. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/albert_einstein....

Middle click (if you have it) gets around this!

Re: Pastejacking

#62

Post by deathhand »

atishay811 wrote: post #59
zbuttram wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen sites that have pages where you're placed in a queue (for whatever reason) and if you leave the page you will be dropped from the queue, so it's nice to have something preventing you from accidentally leaving, but that's the only legitimate use I can think of.

Websites can find better solutions if we kill this annoying feature. We have local storage in all browsers. Rather than prompting why not save it and recover when the user comes back. The users will always prefer this. It saves data even when the website crashes or the connectivity is lost and there is some important data on the page. Why have a feature that is abused more often than used especially there is no case…

I agree. This thought process comes from a different era and has just continued to perpetuate itself. If you are working on insanely* large files then that box makes sense, otherwise we have the technology to save the user the headache.

*insanely large is anything that takes up 75% of whatever computer bottlenecks first at the time of reading this comment(Memory, processor)

Re: Pastejacking

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Post by Turing_Machine »

beefsack wrote: post #45
zbuttram wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen sites that have pages where you're placed in a queue (for whatever reason) and if you leave the page you will be dropped from the queue, so it's nice to have something preventing you from accidentally leaving, but that's the only legitimate use I can think of.

Or potentially losing any page state when navigating away or closing a browser, such as form data.

Right. You don't want to lose the blog post or other document you've been working on for an hour because you hit the close button on the wrong tab.

Re: Pastejacking

#67

Post by rtpg »

atishay811 wrote: post #59
zbuttram wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen sites that have pages where you're placed in a queue (for whatever reason) and if you leave the page you will be dropped from the queue, so it's nice to have something preventing you from accidentally leaving, but that's the only legitimate use I can think of.

Websites can find better solutions if we kill this annoying feature. We have local storage in all browsers. Rather than prompting why not save it and recover when the user comes back. The users will always prefer this. It saves data even when the website crashes or the connectivity is lost and there is some important data on the page. Why have a feature that is abused more often than used especially there is no case…

It's not always that clear. If I leave a page, how is one to know whether that was intentional or not?

If it's intentional, you don't want to pull the data back up (people want a "fresh copy")

If it's not intentional, you do want to pull the data back up.

Though of course you can make something like a "New Copy" button, but then that presents its own challenges.

Re: Pastejacking

#68

Post by wtbob »

dawnerd wrote: post #28
cryptoz wrote: post #9

There are many news sites that make it extremely hard to share their content on sites like HN or reddit because of these tricks. I wonder if they are actually losing traffic from it, or if their tactics work? I'm referring when you copy the text in the title of an article to try to paste it into the Title box on HN or reddit. But what you 'paste' is actually a huge paragraph about how great the news website is and ho…

I had to implement this kinda code when I worked for Demand Media and it certainly worked. Whats funny is you don't need any fancy new apis to make it work. We were doing some pretty basic tactics actually. Only real way to prevent it is disable javascript.

> Only real way to prevent it is disable javascript.

Oh, darn … /s

Re: Pastejacking

#69

Post by wtbob »

Aaand this is yet another reason to disable JavaScript. Why should a site I'm visiting be able to *$&% with my clipboard without my consent?

Re: Pastejacking

#70

Post by makecheck »

I remember adding an entire feature to my terminal to check for multi-line Paste because it was frustrating to execute something by accident. It never occurred to me that we would reach the point where the Copy itself could not even be trusted.

It is time to rein in all the things that web browsers are complicit in doing at the request of random web sites. There needs to be a lot more thought put into these “APIs” that sites have access to, and a lot more scrutiny of the data.

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