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Re: We Only Hire the Best

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone says to you: "we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money" You should counter: "there's no shortage of meaningful problems; I'd be irresponsible if I didn't work on the one that improves my family's standard of living the most"

"I'm sorry, I'm looking for employers who aren't just motivated by work."

Brutal

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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post #11

Corp: "We only hire the very best" Programmer: "What's the salary?" Corp: "Market average. Also, we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money"

Did we mention the perks like our "unlimited vacation policy"?

Re: We Only Hire the Best

#63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone says to you: "we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money" You should counter: "there's no shortage of meaningful problems; I'd be irresponsible if I didn't work on the one that improves my family's standard of living the most"

"I'm sorry, I'm looking for employers who aren't just motivated by work."

actually they are motivated by money it's just a transfert.

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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post #11

Corp: "We only hire the very best" Programmer: "What's the salary?" Corp: "Market average. Also, we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money"

We want people who are motivated by the mission .

Ah yes, "The Mission"

Sure, some of them have a social aspect, something interesting, etc

But for others I can't see how they manage to say it with a straight face

Re: We Only Hire the Best

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also that "market average" is usually below market average.

"Market average" is generally based on salary surveys, which kind of have to trim the extremes. So it's the median (ish), which is often lower than the mean.

I'm specifically talking about the companies that have told me they pay "market average" in New York City and are offering $45-55k and want a mid-level developer. Then act like their tenth of a point of worthless options are a winning lottery ticket.

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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post #11

Corp: "We only hire the very best" Programmer: "What's the salary?" Corp: "Market average. Also, we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money"

I can't up-vote this article or comment enough! If you want to hire a top 1% employee, you need to offer a top 1% salary. Not a top 50% salary.

Re: We Only Hire the Best

#67
post #28

Joel wrote this same post about 10 years ago. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/01/27.html

Ecclesiastes 1:9 -- The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

Re: We Only Hire the Best

#68

In the spirit of going deep, the root cause of the F1 crash was human error (being in the wrong strategy mode) rather than ego.

Yeah, that was a whole different kind of error. Also, the line before that is pretty wrong too, so I guess we're just going to have to ignore the whole paragraph.

Re: We Only Hire the Best

#69

Experience tells me that hiring posts that demand this level of excellence are often covering for weaknesses in their process. "We only hire the best!" The best at what? "The best at everything of course. We want a full stack wish fulfillment genie." Either you have no idea what skills are missing from your current team, or they are all missing, and you want to fill that gap with one person rather than a team. Job po…

Here are some of my favorite lazy hiring manager practices:

  * asking for "everything but the kitchen sink" skills
  * confusing Java with Javascript
  * even mentioning J2EE in the requisiton (who on Earth wants to do that in this day and age?)
  * copy-pasting of the requisition leading to truncation of the posting

Re: We Only Hire the Best

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post #62
post #11

Corp: "We only hire the very best" Programmer: "What's the salary?" Corp: "Market average. Also, we're looking for people who aren't just motivated by money"

Did we mention the perks like our "unlimited vacation policy"?

Heh. Man I'm glad I talked my VP down from the cliff. He honestly thought it was a Good Thing.

I currently have 7 weeks off/year plus 10 holiday days. No way I'd take all of that with the unlimited plan.

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