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Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

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Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#32

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I may be wrong (and hope to be corrected!), but I think that End-to-End is never expected to be in the Chrome Web Store. I think they feel that this kind of encryption is too complicated for the average user. It's intended more for "power users" who already know that they want it.

They've discouraged people from compiling builds and then uploading it to the store, but I believe this is because they don't want a half-implemented/untested PGP library posted -- especially one with their name on it. I haven't seen any concrete plans about how they plan to distribute it when it's done, but I didn't get the same sense about them not wanting to upload it themselves. In fact, I think Google would be t…

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if Gmail is e2e, how can Google harvest user data from it?

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've discouraged people from compiling builds and then uploading it to the store, but I believe this is because they don't want a half-implemented/untested PGP library posted -- especially one with their name on it. I haven't seen any concrete plans about how they plan to distribute it when it's done, but I didn't get the same sense about them not wanting to upload it themselves. In fact, I think Google would be t…

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if Gmail is e2e, how can Google harvest user data from it?

They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and reminders (eg. flight tomorrow) via Google Now.

End-to-end is a tradeoff. But presumably they wouldn't be working on the technology if they weren't prepared to offer it in some fashion. Probably as an opt-in? Hopefully a Googler can offer more insight as I can only speculate.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#35

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Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if Gmail is e2e, how can Google harvest user data from it?

They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and reminders (eg. flight tomorrow) via Google Now. End-to-end is a tradeoff. But presumably they wouldn't be working on the technology if they weren't prepared to offer it in some fashion. Probably as an opt-in? Hopefully a Googler can offer more insight as I can onl…

>They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and reminders (eg. flight tomorrow) via Google Now.

Sure they could, all incoming emails aren't magically going to become e2e encrypted.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've discouraged people from compiling builds and then uploading it to the store, but I believe this is because they don't want a half-implemented/untested PGP library posted -- especially one with their name on it. I haven't seen any concrete plans about how they plan to distribute it when it's done, but I didn't get the same sense about them not wanting to upload it themselves. In fact, I think Google would be t…

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if Gmail is e2e, how can Google harvest user data from it?

Probably most messages through GMail would still not be E2E.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

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ha i remember long time ago chasing for the perfect webmail system.. before gmail of course. Horde,Roundcube, squirrel god... I've never found the perfect one!

Zimbra works remarkably well.

Indeed Zimbra was a game changer! Also using postfix by default was all good stuff!

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if Gmail is e2e, how can Google harvest user data from it?

They couldn't. They would have to show ads from other history and not the email's contents. This would also break features such as (server-side) search and reminders (eg. flight tomorrow) via Google Now. End-to-end is a tradeoff. But presumably they wouldn't be working on the technology if they weren't prepared to offer it in some fashion. Probably as an opt-in? Hopefully a Googler can offer more insight as I can onl…

Or they could run a few algorithms client side on the text, return some sufficiently anonymized data and show ads based on that. So if you are emailing about organizing a birthday party you get balloon recommendations, but if you got a ransom letter with only an address, a photo and a a big number after the dollar sign, they might opt to not send data back to their ad servers.

If they think there is money to be made on this despite the hardness of the problem, they will come up with some okay-ish solution.

Or just make e2e 5 usd/month.

Though I never clicked on any ads in GMail, nor did I see anyone do it, so maybe GMail is not a great source of ad income.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#39

Rainloop already has this. http://www.rainloop.net/ Been using it for a year or so now, it's fantastic and has never let me down.

I came here to comment about this. Rainloop is amazing.

It also has some extra security features for the end user. For instance, you can tell Rainloop to proxy images from the email and serve them to you instead of your browser getting them from a remote source. It's amazing because you get faster load times and don't leak your desktop IP, only whatever server your running Rainloop on.

The only thing it's lacking is PGP, which is very sad.

Re: Roundcube Webmail 1.2.0 released with PGP support

#40

Rainloop already has this. http://www.rainloop.net/ Been using it for a year or so now, it's fantastic and has never let me down.

I came here to comment about this. Rainloop is amazing. It also has some extra security features for the end user. For instance, you can tell Rainloop to proxy images from the email and serve them to you instead of your browser getting them from a remote source. It's amazing because you get faster load times and don't leak your desktop IP, only whatever server your running Rainloop on. The only thing it's lacking is…

Wait, the parent said Rainloop has PGP. That's why they brought it up.
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