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How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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What are the substantial benefits of getting onboard the UWP rain ? Will the platform code work faster.. will the deployment be faster ? what about the knowledge devs have gathered for decades. will the new way of doing things produce a more efficient and better running application ?

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What are the substantial benefits of getting onboard the UWP rain ? Will the platform code work faster.. will the deployment be faster ? what about the knowledge devs have gathered for decades. will the new way of doing things produce a more efficient and better running application ?

For long time Windows developers like myself, the underlying model of WinRT is what the original .NET was supposed to be.

It was called Ext-OS and based on an improved COM API, called COM+ Runtime.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dsyme/2012/07/05/more-c-net...

So with C++/CX and .NET Native built on top of WinRT, Microsoft has gone full circle back to the original idea.

Personally I enjoy developing UWP (started right away with the old Windows 8 model), because it offers me a modern OO API to Windows, similar to the OS APIs from Xerox PARC and ETHZ OSes.

Also, sadly Microsoft torpedoed the whole WP eco-system, but the tooling is so much pleasant to use than Android's.

I also welcome the container model to put some control into the mess that is installing Windows applications.

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What are the substantial benefits of getting onboard the UWP rain ? Will the platform code work faster.. will the deployment be faster ? what about the knowledge devs have gathered for decades. will the new way of doing things produce a more efficient and better running application ?

For long time Windows developers like myself, the underlying model of WinRT is what the original .NET was supposed to be. It was called Ext-OS and based on an improved COM API, called COM+ Runtime. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dsyme/2012/07/05/more-c-net... So with C++/CX and .NET Native built on top of WinRT, Microsoft has gone full circle back to the original idea. Personally I enjoy developing UWP (started rig…

Any github Project or existing application developers.. who have successfully ported their libraries to UWP.. that you can point me to ? That would be damn awesome.. :)

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For long time Windows developers like myself, the underlying model of WinRT is what the original .NET was supposed to be. It was called Ext-OS and based on an improved COM API, called COM+ Runtime. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dsyme/2012/07/05/more-c-net... So with C++/CX and .NET Native built on top of WinRT, Microsoft has gone full circle back to the original idea. Personally I enjoy developing UWP (started rig…

Any github Project or existing application developers.. who have successfully ported their libraries to UWP.. that you can point me to ? That would be damn awesome.. :)

Not sure what exactly what you would like to know.

There are lots of projects using C++/CX on Github.

https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=C%2B%2B%2FCX

Edge HTML is UWP based.

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Quantum Break, and Forza Motorsport 6: Apex (Beta) are all UWP games.

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> Microsoft has still arguably achieved something that its competitors have not. Rumors that Google will somehow merge ChromeOS and Android have been circulating for some time, but it hasn't happened just yet

Uhhh.. ChromeOS and Android are both Linux. This is just as merged as running a stripped down Windows kernel.

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Windows FOR everywhere. No matter that Microsoft says, windows is still a choice. We have all seen shops where windows is just taken for granted, but every senior guy I know has some horror story about MS that makes them dream of a world without.

A typical story:http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-no-longer-allows-admi...

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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Operation successful, patient dead...

It's kind of tragic that much of this effort may never pay off: in the process of merging platforms and restructuring API's (that started with Vista and is still going) Microsoft lost the connection to many of its developers, who went to build Web, iOS and Android apps. WPF, Silverlight, WinRT, XAML, UWP: there were too many changes, rewrites and deprecations. Windows Phone, brilliant as it is, did never reach mass adoption and all the effort that went into unifying it with Windows has probably been wasted.

I think developers prefer a crappy but stable technologies with a proven market over uncertain and fast-moving technologies. It takes many years for a new platform to mature and settle down.

Microsoft really needs to stop introducing "upgrades" that require application rewrites in Windows for the next 3-5 years, and focus on getting the Windows Store going.

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First immediate thought: Can you get virus/malware scanners for XBox? Otherwise, it seems an immediate easy target for a new botnet.

Windows has had a sufficient built-in virus/malware scanner for a while now. But, I agree, it's now as easy of a target as other Windows 10 machines out there.
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