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Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by devdas »

lgieron wrote: post #60
patio11 wrote: post #23

I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. It takes minu…

> I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. I don't agr…

You could also have just read the books :).

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by je42 »

hk__2 wrote: post #85
bad_user wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from Romania, Europe. Don't know what a "top developer" is, but I'm not unemployed, I'm not a student, I have a wife and a son and I'm not low income, in fact being paid at least 4x the national average for software developers, my salary being on equal footing with the US, not the Bay Area mind you, but given the high cost of life there, my income is higher relative to where I live. And I also contribute open sou…

> I'm not low income, in fact being paid at least 4x the national average for software developers Out of curiosity, what is the average salary for software developers in Romania?

It's obvious. Take Bay Area average divide by 4 ;)

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by johanneskanybal »

Weird article. Every top company I've heard of is more into balanced normal people than extreme people. Perhaps made more sense 20 years ago when I started getting into computer science and you saw recruitment adds eith topic like "Do you hate talking to people?"

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by a_imho »

hk__2 wrote: post #85
bad_user wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from Romania, Europe. Don't know what a "top developer" is, but I'm not unemployed, I'm not a student, I have a wife and a son and I'm not low income, in fact being paid at least 4x the national average for software developers, my salary being on equal footing with the US, not the Bay Area mind you, but given the high cost of life there, my income is higher relative to where I live. And I also contribute open sou…

> I'm not low income, in fact being paid at least 4x the national average for software developers Out of curiosity, what is the average salary for software developers in Romania?

I can only speak for Hungary, it should be pretty similar, figures per month gross, net is ~2/3 of that, rough estimates as follows

minimum wage $300 average wage $900 (official statistics for 2016 Q1) fresh graduate developer $1000 3-5 years of experience $2000-$3000

Can't speak for top engineers, but it would be surprising if more than a couple earns over $6000, it flats out pretty fast.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by s_m_t »

lgieron wrote: post #60
patio11 wrote: post #23

I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. It takes minu…

> I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. I don't agr…

You could always go to bed early instead and wake up early in the morning.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by 0012983802 »

andrewstuart wrote: post #87
98129129 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The field isn't rapidly evolving. It's about cramming new pointless APIs and frameworks that are pushed by $company in order to dominate some market segment.

Not evolving? Maybe you're just not learning enough to know what the newest evolutions are. Are you one of the people who see new technology as pointless fashion?

Maybe you are a recruiter who does not know the history of computer science.

But you seem to have voting backup here, which, given your opinions, looks a bit odd.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by hawkice »

lgieron wrote: post #60
patio11 wrote: post #23

I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. It takes minu…

> I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. I don't agr…

It seems that professional programmers have little understanding about the limits of human endurance in skilled labor. Junior doctors work 100 hour weeks and 36 hour shifts so busy they often don't have time to visit the bathroom. It may slightly harm your productivity by working more (almost certainly will) but to say you can't do anything on your own time except for watching Game of Thrones is overly pessimistic.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by mrits »

andrewstuart wrote: post #63

I am a recruiter and always ask this question - "Is programming just a job for you to get the bills paid, or do you have a broader interest?" The thing to understand, and what the author of this post has wrong, is that I am not looking to hear about how much TIME a developer spends on programming. I am wanting to hear the STORY of their personal interest. Because the truth is that if software development is a persona…

Does anyone really care about a recruiter thinks? You can read a few paragraphs to understand how you get recruiters interested (even though they spam everyone on linkedin anyways). It can take years of effort to land the kind of jobs you want.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by mrits »

andrewstuart wrote: post #63

I am a recruiter and always ask this question - "Is programming just a job for you to get the bills paid, or do you have a broader interest?" The thing to understand, and what the author of this post has wrong, is that I am not looking to hear about how much TIME a developer spends on programming. I am wanting to hear the STORY of their personal interest. Because the truth is that if software development is a persona…

Does anyone really care about a recruiter thinks? You can read a few paragraphs to understand how you get recruiters interested (even though they spam everyone on linkedin anyways). It can take years of effort to land the kind of jobs you want.
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