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Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by rohit89 »

kd5bjo wrote: post #38
ACow_Adonis wrote: post #18

You can be hired into a position in an arbitrary hierarchy by having a life outside of coding. You can be popular while having a life outside of coding, or have something you wrote become popular. If that's what you mean by "top developer", then yes, I completely agree. If you mean "the skill of actually programming", then no, that's absurd. Would you tell someone they can be a "top sports player", if they have a lif…

> Would you tell someone they can be a "top sports player", if they have a life outside of playing that sport? I've been living at a tennis academy for the past two months, and I've seen firsthand what's expected of the top players. To keep up the necessary training intensity, regular recovery periods away from tennis are built into their schedule. In other words, having a life outside the sport is not only possible,…

They still need to maintain fitness and dietary standards during that time though?

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by lgieron »

TickleSteve wrote: post #28
jkot wrote: post #9

I think this article is detached from reality. Most people who contribute to OS are on low income, unemployed or students. Top developers in banks and startups dont have time for that, or are forbidden by their company. Being "top developer" is one of the most family friendly jobs that ever existed. You can work remotely at your own time. I quit cubicle and started working on opensource because I had family. > you mi…

Despite rumours to the contrary... remote working is still a very small minority of coding work. The overwhelming majority of coding work (at whatever level, top or bottom) is carried out 9-5 in offices. Also "top developer" != "open source developer".

It is a very small minority, but we're discussing "top developers", which is an even smaller minority. They shouldn't have problems finding remote jobs.

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Post by badminton1 »

jkot wrote: post #9

I think this article is detached from reality. Most people who contribute to OS are on low income, unemployed or students. Top developers in banks and startups dont have time for that, or are forbidden by their company. Being "top developer" is one of the most family friendly jobs that ever existed. You can work remotely at your own time. I quit cubicle and started working on opensource because I had family. > you mi…

Some projects are pet projects. What people do when they want to polish their skills. Other people do it as a day job. Other people do it in combination with a paper... Then, companies might open source software if that software doesn't represent a competitive advantage. Other do it to improve their chances to be hired (github as resume)....

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by stedaniels »

Wintamute wrote: post #11

> Who can afford to keep coding after an 8-hour work day of coding? Who doesn't get harassed in the open-source community? 20-year-old white guys with no responsibilities Yeah, stopped reading at this point. Your "intersectional social justice theory" is just casual sexism and racism to me.

Uhuh. Because the author didn't list half a dozen examples you cast them as sexist and racist. Bravo. We need more people like you in society!

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by spraak »

jkot wrote: post #9

I think this article is detached from reality. Most people who contribute to OS are on low income, unemployed or students. Top developers in banks and startups dont have time for that, or are forbidden by their company. Being "top developer" is one of the most family friendly jobs that ever existed. You can work remotely at your own time. I quit cubicle and started working on opensource because I had family. > you mi…

Lol wut? How us that racist? Or, how is that stopping 20 year old white guys from living their life? There's no system in place to crush young white males from doing what they want. But for women and other non binary genders and POC, yes, there is.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by jkot »

stedaniels wrote: post #44
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And little baby sleeps like 16 hours a day. That will end soon :)

Reading jkot's comments in not sure who's disconnected from reality. I do love coming across people who think they are doing things right and normal, everyone must think the same as then. Such ignorance is always astonishing. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.

And which part exactly is disconnected from reality?

Developers have it pretty well with family time even in 9-5 job. My friend works on boat and is away from home 6 months every year. My other friend works is truck driver and is home on weekends, if he is lucky.

I did my math and I decided to value family time over income. Part of that was moving to cheaper area to reduce expenses and to be with grandparents. Finding remote work is quite easy if you made some tradeoffs.

I said article is disconnected from reality, because it does not handle basic math. Somehow it expects everything without any sacrifices or trade-offs. Part about not sacrificing your hobbies on top of job and family is best example.

And when that does not work, blame is on people who did not even started their own family yet.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by stingraycharles »

stedaniels wrote: post #56
Wintamute wrote: post #11

> Who can afford to keep coding after an 8-hour work day of coding? Who doesn't get harassed in the open-source community? 20-year-old white guys with no responsibilities Yeah, stopped reading at this point. Your "intersectional social justice theory" is just casual sexism and racism to me.

Uhuh. Because the author didn't list half a dozen examples you cast them as sexist and racist. Bravo. We need more people like you in society!

The point is that the author should have elaborated on the circumstances that are required to be able to do that, rather than generalizing based on gender or race.

Re: Top developers can have a life outside coding

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Post by lgieron »

patio11 wrote: post #23

I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future. It takes minu…

> I propose the Daenerys Targaryen test. If you know who Daenerys Targaryen is, you do not have "no time." You have priorities which included "I wish to know who Daenerys Targaryen is." No judgement! I do, too! But if you know who Daenerys Targaryen is and you're dissatisfied with your career growth, you should attempt to consciously be aware of the fact that you can choose different things in the future.

I don't agree. I watch Game of Thrones in the late evening hours where I'm reduced to a vegetable by a whole day of working/coding. I doubt I could squeeze more effective work hours into my schedule (maybe for a couple weeks, but not over a long term).

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