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CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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Page testified for about a half-hour, answering a lightning-fast round of accusatory questions from Oracle attorney Peter Bicks

It really irks me that some of these lawyers, aside from having to do their job feel they have to be dicks about it too.

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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Oooooo shit. Isn't this phrase horrible? Don't get me wrong, I think suing over checkRange is ludicrous... but doesn't saying "declaring code isn't code" terrible? He comes across as he's trying to avoid the issue by playing with words. Of course declaring code is code. The clue is in the name, "declaring CODE".

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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Oooooo shit. Isn't this phrase horrible? Don't get me wrong, I think suing over checkRange is ludicrous... but doesn't saying "declaring code isn't code" terrible? He comes across as he's trying to avoid the issue by playing with words. Of course declaring code is code. The clue is in the name, "declaring CODE".

"declaring code" means headers, or in the case of Java function specification/prototypes, right? As in "declarations". I think it's technical language twisted through legalese.

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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Page testified for about a half-hour, answering a lightning-fast round of accusatory questions from Oracle attorney Peter Bicks It really irks me that some of these lawyers, aside from having to do their job feel they have to be dicks about it too.

Well in the court a lot of theatrics are in play because of their effect on certain questions/answers

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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"For me, declaring code is not code," Page said. This sentence sounds pretty odd to me. What does Larry Page mean?

I think he means header files compile to nothing, they do not end up as actual computer instructions. They only serve to help programs call the actual implementations (which he'll see as the real code) correctly.

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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'The lawsuit began when Oracle sued Google in 2010 over its use of 37 Java APIs, which Oracle acquired when it bought Sun Microsystems. In 2012', am I crazy or is this just a misprint? Oracle sued Google in 2010 before they acquired Sun Microsystems?

Re: CEO Larry Page defends Google on the stand: “Declaring code is not code”

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"For me, declaring code is not code," Page said. This sentence sounds pretty odd to me. What does Larry Page mean?

I read it as .h vs .c files. There's code that declares what code is, e.g. the API, and then the actual implementation of that API. His argument is only the latter is copyrightable.
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