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Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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from the post: > Schools in the US are now buying more Chromebooks than all other devices combined -- and in Q1 of this year, Chromebooks topped Macs in overall shipments to become the #2 most popular PC operating system in the US*. that's pretty amazing actually. congrats to google & the chromebook team!

Since iPads oursell macs by a significant margin this is just a typical distorted comparison by IDC.

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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Pretty heartening too...for awhile, I was worried that computerized education would be limited to tablets.

Right, its much better if computerised education is limited to browser based applications.

You realize the article is about Android apps coming to Chrome OS, right ?

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from the post: > Schools in the US are now buying more Chromebooks than all other devices combined -- and in Q1 of this year, Chromebooks topped Macs in overall shipments to become the #2 most popular PC operating system in the US*. that's pretty amazing actually. congrats to google & the chromebook team!

Congrats on the adoption, although I still don't think it's moving our public institutions in the right direction. It's really just moving a lot more kids into a walled garden. I know Google has been in hot water for collecting student data recently and has since taken steps to fix it. That's their primary business model though. " Anonymizing " promises always follow and then it's a trust game again. I can see a futu…

They took a page from Microsoft's playbook. They know that you have to capture the next generation in schools.

I agree with your worries. But it also tells that other parties in the market have utterly failed to compete. iPads used to get traction, but are more expensive, and Apple doesn't provide a complete ecosystem like Google Apps for Education. Microsoft has been sleeping, they have all the pieces but wanted to push Windows as-is. The open source solutions require you to hire some sysadmins, while Google Apps did exactly the opposite: it cut out some personnel that used to maintain the infrastructure.

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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Could not agree more. Electron apps do not feel like desktop apps at all, they're closer to VMs in how they start, how they stop and how much resources they require.

For some reason that I do not care enough to figure out, the Slack "native" Linux application uses something like 5 GB of RAM on my desktop.

Are you certain it's Electron based? The OSX Slack app is built with MacGap.

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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I'd be more interested in seeing Electron apps on ChromeOS before Android apps, not expecting that to happen mind you, Electron on ChromeOS probably does nothing to move the Google ecosystem forward.

It's a tough fit as Electron apps have access to all of nodejs. Which is a very different philosophy from ChromeOS which keeps its apps very sandboxed.

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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Apple was basically in the same position and they lost it to google. Someday there will be something better and people will switch.

Chromebooks aren't better - they are just cheap and familiar looking. Google has done nobody a service except themselves.

It's not just about Chromebooks, it's the Chromebook in combination with Google Apps for Education which provides Google Mail, Hangouts, Google Docs, and an electronic course environment:

https://www.google.com/edu/products/productivity-tools/class...

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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post #139
post #107

from the post: > Schools in the US are now buying more Chromebooks than all other devices combined -- and in Q1 of this year, Chromebooks topped Macs in overall shipments to become the #2 most popular PC operating system in the US*. that's pretty amazing actually. congrats to google & the chromebook team!

Congrats on the adoption, although I still don't think it's moving our public institutions in the right direction. It's really just moving a lot more kids into a walled garden. I know Google has been in hot water for collecting student data recently and has since taken steps to fix it. That's their primary business model though. " Anonymizing " promises always follow and then it's a trust game again. I can see a futu…

> Google is more interested in getting people into the garden than it is in selling hardware or fostering education

All for-profit companies are interested in turning a profit. No company would be interested in fostering education, no matter what they say. The question is whether their profit motives are harmful to the education.

The larger point here is about the dangers of the cloud. Google could chose not to allow you access to your own data. It can hand it over to the government. A hacker can break into your data and impersonate you remotely, even if you went off the grid. If they become a monopoly, they can jack up their prices and you would have no recourse. They could offer you crappy service and you will have to swallow it.

Re: Play Store and Android Apps Coming to Chromebooks

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Right, its much better if computerised education is limited to browser based applications.

You realize the article is about Android apps coming to Chrome OS, right ?

You realise that every single school/education department that chose to use Chromebooks did so knowing that they would not run anything but web apps, right?

Additionally, this announcement of a future release lists very specific models of Chromebooks that will support Android apps. Honestly, Android (and Google's management of the situation) has a fucking terrible track record when it comes to support and updates for devices.

Lastly - if you think that apps designed to run on a smartphone and later frankenstein'd onto a low cost laptop form-factor with a browser-as-the-os tagline, I think you should prepare to be surprised.

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I understand this concern. I've helped deploy chromebooks and linux based laptops and pcs at my daughters school. I am pro open source and would love to see lots of digging into understanding the systems. However I am also in favor of chromebooks. Here's why: The alternative to chromebooks isn't a glorious world of non-locked down non-cloud dependent machines. It's a world of poorly managed, crappy windows boxes. A w…

> poorly managed, crappy windows boxes > at least as locked down as a chromebook but much less secure I fucking loathe windows, but Lucy, you've some 'splainin to do. How is a Windows PC "at least as locked down" as a Chromebook? Remember that "locked down" in the case of a chromebook doesn't mean "the administrator has decided what apps you can run and who can use it", it means "the fundamental design of the operati…

I don't know what's inherently so bad about "being a google user". It's mostly paranoia. If the only hypothetical disadvantage you're thinking about it is "Google might shut down one day", then you're not thinking about a very near future. If the TV channels shut down tomorrow, your TVs effectively stop working too, you still buy them. There are hundreds of such devices out there, which you buy because it's pretty evident the company is not shutting down tomorrow. On the other hand, even if Google shuts down, a lot of things on your Chromebook will keep on working offline, especially with the advent of Android apps now.

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Apple was basically in the same position and they lost it to google. Someday there will be something better and people will switch.

Chromebooks aren't better - they are just cheap and familiar looking. Google has done nobody a service except themselves.

They're cheaper and still good enough. They're popular because that combination is closer to what is desired by the market.
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