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Re: Google Home

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post #21

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You probably have on in your pocket already, is the thing. (I agree though, I don't want this in my house, and I turned off the "Ok Google" functionality on my phone)

I don't know about Android (though I assume it works the same way), but iPhone's "Hey Siri" is done entirely on-device, so until you activate Siri, nothing you say is sent to a server.

People keep bringing this up and it's silly. It can just record what you say and send it later.

Re: Google Home

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post #42

RFP - Request For Project 1. Train Google Home to recognize Amazon Echo's voice as its owner. 2. Train Amazon Echo to recognize Siri's voice as its owner 3. Train Siri to recognize Google Home's voice as its owner 4. Kick start some kind of endless loop between the three of them.

I think you just wrote Friday's xkcd

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11270758

Re: Google Home

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post #159

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Even if you do, it can still record audio, and transmit it when you take it out

The carrier needs to remotely tell the device to enter into a special mode, so a faraday bag would be an effectively method to block this.

Unless the device is programmed to automatically enter into that mode in the absence of any signal on the assumption that if it is in a shielded location it is likely interesting.

Re: Google Home

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When I was younger, I dreamed of something like this. Voice control for my home! A Star Trek computer that I can interact with conversationally! I just say what I want and it happens! Now, I just see an internet-connected microphone in a software black box which I can only interpret as a giant frickin' security liability. I want this, but unless it's open source top-to-bottom, I won't ever actually put one in my home…

The Free Software Foundation, in its texts, often uses the phrase "the free world" to mean the realm of computing without proprietary restrictions, surveillance, etc. Approximately since Snowden, I've become more and more convinced about both the fragility and the value of this free world. And today, I basically see the tech giants as colossal enemies. Career-wise, henceforth I will avoid proprietary systems and dedi…

That's why I think an open source distributed & end to end encrypted social platform to replace facebook and google plus is needed too.

Re: Google Home

#235

Ok, controversial opinion: "[...] and manage everyday tasks" What exactly do we want to automate at home? I think this whole home automation and smart home stuff is complete bullshit. Obviously there are some nice things, like "play me song xyz", but IMHO it is completely oversold. There are just not that much things to automate at home. And this does not mean that I think 640K are enough memory for everyone.

I haven't even really explored all the capabilities of Alexa, but I ask Alexa to:

1. read the news (1x per day)

2. play music (~3x per day)

3. turn on/off lights (~8x per day)

4. set a timer (~2x per day)

5. feed the cat (~2x per day... blog post forthcoming)

Re: Google Home

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post #223
post #176

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You are making a mighty fine distinction, one that sometimes makes no difference. You are also assuming that "access to attention" is perfectly firewalled from data, which it isn't. I know one person who is playing with what correlations can be made by getting people to click on google ads. I can't imagine he's the first. You are also assuming that Google's policy will never change, Google's assets will never end up…

> The average corporate lifespan in the US is 27 years. I wonder what the average lifespan is for companies that are already more than X years old, where X could be 1, 2, 5... I'm thinking as a comparison to how the biggest increase in average lifespan for humans wasn't everyone dying a tiny bit later, it was infant mortality dropping massively.

Period life expectancy is the term you are looking for, I think. Immediate googling does not provide a helpful answer.

Another interesting question would be Cohort life expectancy of corporations - that is, have corporations started in the 1990's lasted longer than those started in the 2000's? (obviously, the graph of corporations in the 2000's would have less data)

Re: Google Home

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I am impressed Amazon was able to make a new product category. It's only a matter of time before Apple announces their take on Siri Home.

Re: Google Home

#238
How many months from release until the FISA court issues a secret order to turn one of these on 24x7x365 in a suspect's home, and stream the audio to the FBI "counter terrorism" people investigating a subject?

Re: Google Home

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post #19

When I was younger, I dreamed of something like this. Voice control for my home! A Star Trek computer that I can interact with conversationally! I just say what I want and it happens! Now, I just see an internet-connected microphone in a software black box which I can only interpret as a giant frickin' security liability. I want this, but unless it's open source top-to-bottom, I won't ever actually put one in my home…

Whenever I see one of these things, and the people who happily purchase it without giving even two seconds of thought to the privacy implications, it makes me realize how important organizations like the FSF and EFF are.

Re: Google Home

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Free Software Foundation, in its texts, often uses the phrase "the free world" to mean the realm of computing without proprietary restrictions, surveillance, etc. Approximately since Snowden, I've become more and more convinced about both the fragility and the value of this free world. And today, I basically see the tech giants as colossal enemies. Career-wise, henceforth I will avoid proprietary systems and dedi…

That's why I think an open source distributed & end to end encrypted social platform to replace facebook and google plus is needed too.

The issue isn't creating such a platform, it has been done. The issue is getting others to use it. That has not been done.
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